The Life Of A Raider...

[Angry Pope]

It would be nice to have some of these types of personalities on our beloved team now. The ones we have now are more the misdemeanor type...

WR: Fred Biletnikoff.

1st round draft pick in 1965.

Freddie actually thought he'd be cut - he was insecure. He was easily the slowest player on the team but had more moves than Fred Astaire which is why he's in the Hall of Fame. Biletnikoff also used gobs of stickum on his hands, arms, and uniform - the better to catch passes. Off the field he was plain wacky. He smoked two packs per day (so much for healthy athletes) and got so nervous before games that he routinely threw up. His interviews were so profane that radio and TV reporters couldn't air them. He also thought nothing of clashing with Al Davis. If Davis offered advice, Freddie responded "shut the bleep up you bleeping Jew bleeper!"

TE: Dave Casper.

2nd round pick in 1974.

Casper was nicknamed "Ghost" because he was so pale (and not because of the friendly ghost). He was best known for off-the-wall statements and defying authority (although on the Raiders, nobody noticed). For example, Casper once told Ken Stabler that if everyone moved out of the way, he could take out the nose tackle. Now, it's common for the TE to block a DT. He also asked Stabler to pretend to kneel at the end of the half and throw him a TD. Stabler declined, knowing the opposing team would kill him for doing that. After he left the Raiders for Houston, Casper's defiance of authority surfaced. He showed what he though of head coach Ed Biles by bringing a pillow to team meetings and snoozing. When Biles fined him for taking off his helmet at practice, Casper wore his helmet to meals and ate through the face bars.


OT: Bob Brown.

Despite All-Pro play, Bob Brown wore out his welcome in Philadelphia by arguing with coaches and in Los Angeles in a contract dispute. In LA, Brown found a unique way to discourage teammate Deacon Jones from headslapping him in practice. He replaced the short screw that held helmet padding in place with a long sharp screw. When Jones headslapped him, he impaled his own hand. That might be a death sentence for some, but Brown weighed 295 without an ounce of fat and his motto was "I don't fear nobody". He was always lifting weights and had forearms the size of some people's thighs. He even took a dumbbell to meals and liften while he ate. In Brown's first Raider training camp practice, he lined up against the goal post and slammed it. The goal post toppled over. Later in camp, gunfire broke out at night. Biletnikoff told others that Brown, a gun enthusiast, was testing his ordnance by firing out the windows. Nobody told him it was a bad idea. On the field, Brown defied the stereotype of the passive OT. His favorite move was punching his opponent in the solar plexis. John Madden said one opponent puked on the field after one of those punches. Brown also didn't like the fact that the Raiders always ran left behind Shell and Upshaw. So, once in the huddle, he demanded "could you run a few bleeping plays to my side?" loud enough for the defense to hear. Then Brown blasted his opponent five yards off the line.


G: George Buehler.

At 6'2" and 270 lb of solid muscle, Buehler was easily the strongest Raider of his time. However, Buehler wasn't mean. Actually, he was so nice that if he stepped on an opponent's foot, he'd say he was sorry. According to John Madden, Buehler got depressed every year because he wasn't a doctor like his father, uncle, and brother. His therapy was building remote-controlled toys. One year, he brought a remote-controlled plane to camp. But when he buzzed Dave Casper, Casper heaved a handfull of rocks at the plane which crashed into a hundred pieces. The next year, he brought a remote-controlled tank to retrieve his mail and told Casper not to touch it or he'd rip Dave's face off. The tank worked but teammates commandeered it for jokes. They attached strings of firecrackers to the tank and sneak it behind teammates and coaches.

C: Jim Otto.

Jim Otto was about the only talent the Raiders had in 1960. He
was an overlooked free agent. Otto was so tough that he once played on a
broken ankle. That made him one of Al Davis' favorites. Opponents
underestimated him at their peril. In 1968, then rookie MLB and future
All-Pro Bill Bergey made a great play at the sidelines right in front of
John Madden who implored Otto to block better. Bergey responded "Otto can't
block me, Coach! He's too old and slow. I'm too fast for him." A few plays
later, Otto launched himself at Bergey and hit him helmet to helmet. Bergey
got a concussion, played the rest of the game in a fog, and suffered from
nausea afterward.

cont'd...

[Angry Pope]

cont'd...

QB: Ken Stabler.

Ken Stabler was born to be a Raider. He drank scotch and
chased women with abandon - he could have made Joe Namath proud which isn't
surprising since Stabler met Namath at Alabama. Snake was the leader of "The
Santa Rosa Five" which included Biletnikoff, Pete Banazak, Tony Cline, and
Dan Connors. They scored with women every night and hung up panties as
prizes. Quite juvenile. Especially since Stabler was married at the time and
got caught by his wife during one escapade. Incredibly, Stabler often threw
the game plan in the wastebasket and relied on a couple of plays. He'd throw
the up and out to Biletnikoff or the post to Branch. That didn't sit well
with Al Davis but as long as the Raiders won, he couldn't say much.


RB: Marv Hubbard.

Marv Hubbard was an 11th round pick from Colgate. He got
cut his first year, 1968, but came back in 1969 after playing semi-pro ball.
Hubbard was a very blue-collar kind of guy. He used to celebrate victories
by breaking the window of the business next to his favorite bar. Until the
owner told the Raiders he'd call the police if it happened again. Lamented
Hubbard "Where I come from, you fight a guy and then you buy him a drink.
Here, if you punch somebody, you get sued". Hubbard was wild on the field.
He chew down an amphetamine, get wide-eyed, and be ready for battle.
Especially with Chiefs MLB Willie Lanier. Hubbard would yell at Lanier that
he was coming - often when that was right where the play was going. In spite
of that, Hubbard had a career average of nearly 5 yards per carry. And he
didn't have many 20 yard runs to increase his average.

CB: Skip Thomas.

Alonzo "Skip" Thomas was nicknamed "Dr. Death". One day in
practice, teammate George Atkinson said to him "Man, you so ugly, you look
like Dr. Death". Thomas liked the name so much he painted it on his
Corvette. In addition to Corvettes, Thomas like motorcycles. He once bet
teammate Clarence Davis that a motorcycle was faster than a Corvette. The
two raced around the parking lot until Madden put an end to it. Another
time, Thomas tried putting up an Evel Knievel ramp. Madden stopped that too.
About once a month, Thomas would check into a hospital because he needed the
rest. He played as hard off the field as on. One time though, Thomas crashed
his motorcycle and told Jack Tatum he was too hurt to play. "You're gonna
play Skip" said Tatum. And he did.

[CrossBones]

GREAT POST.

Man, more "rep"... :D

[Ghost Poster]

Excellent posts......REP


If Davis offered advice, Freddie responded "shut the bleep up you bleeping Jew bleeper!" Thats just great stuff.

[Rupert]

Excellent stuff! Great history.

Ghost: And he's still employed by Al.

[Angry Pope]

Here is a video of the old Raiders. There are other videos on that page besides this one....


Our Raiders.... (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1414183115323448274&q=raiders)

[Angry Pope]

Our defensive line coach, Keith Millard, may not have played for us but he should have...

....having a fastpitch softball double header called off because Keith Millard got bored during training camp in Mankato, drove up to the town where I lived 10 miles away, and did donuts on three of the four fields. I only missed those two games, but a week's worth were called off. And it took the Vikings over two years to eventually pay for the re-sodding like they said they would.

[RaiderIVlife]

What a draft !!!!!

Hey all. In the middle of 19-20 days (?) of work, long days to boot. Not much too add, but that I look foward to weighing in more in the near future....

[Angry Pope]

Here is a story on Grove...

All Raiders' Grove really wants is to make a lasting impact


By Nathan Warters
Lynchburg News & Advance
February 3, 2006



Jake Grove doesn't play football for the same reasons many players today do, though he's made quite a living from the sport.

He didn't just want to earn a scholarship or be a high NFL draft pick. Make no mistake, NFL money is nice, but that's not the reason he works so hard to keep his Oakland Raiders' roster spot.

The game means more to Grove. It's his way of making a mark.

"When I was at Virginia Tech, my biggest thing was just to be remembered, and at Jefferson Forest it was the same thing," said the 6-foot-4, 300-pound offensive lineman. "I didn't just want to play. I wanted to be remembered."

So far, that hasn't been a problem for Grove, a 1998 Jefferson Forest graduate, who has taken his strong work ethic and skill to football's highest level.

The 26-year old Grove has already received his share of recognition. He was a high school All-American at Jefferson Forest and a consensus All-American at Virginia Tech.

Those who have been around him find him easy to remember.

Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer was talking to reporters Wednesday about the Hokies' 2006 recruiting class, and Grove's name came up unsolicited twice, once to illustrate how far a less-heralded recruit can take himself (Grove was considered only the 20th best player in Virginia when he committed to Tech) and once to explain how quickly a less-heralded recruit can play (Grove played in every game as a redshirt freshman).

Jefferson Forest will unveil a lasting remembrance of Grove tonight at halftime of the Cavaliers' boy's basketball game against visiting Heritage.

Grove's No. 71 will be retired to hang in JF's gym beside the No. 16 of former Virginia All-American Anthony Poindexter.

"I got my start in this whole thing that's going on right now with the NFL, college, everything that's happened because of the coaching and the people at Jefferson Forest," Grove said. "I can't thank them enough for what they did to help put me in the position that I'm in right now."

Former Jefferson Forest athletic director Ray Davidson has been planning a jersey ceremony for Grove for some time. There just hasn't been a good time to do it because of Grove's busy schedule.

"It's real important (to acknowledge players like Grove and Poindexter), because the thing that makes them special is they're good people first and good role models for the kids," current JF athletic director Troy Doss said.

Grove completed his second NFL season with the Raiders in January and is now considered an NFL veteran. That's kind of hard to believe considering it wasn't that long ago he was at Jefferson Forest lining up against players from Brookville and Liberty high schools.

"I certainly felt like his work ethic, if anything, would be the deciding factor whether or not he'd take it to the (NFL), and that's exactly what he had," said Ed Landis, Grove's former coach at Jefferson Forest and the current football coach at E.C. Glass.

"Leaving school at 6-3, 250 (pounds) as a senior, I never envisioned him being 300-plus and that big. I always felt like he had the potential to play at the next level, though, because he was such a hard worker."

Grove's Tech career went by in a whiff, capped by his selection to all five All-America teams as a senior. He started 10 games in 2002 and all 14 in 2003, and he won the Rimington Trophy as the nation's top center as a senior.

Now he's wearing the Raiders' silver and black and facing All-Pro-caliber defensive tackles for a living.

Grove started eight games as a rookie right guard after being drafted in the second round by the Raiders in 2004. He battled through a pesky knee injury last season, starting eight games (six at center, his preferred position) while missing seven others with the injury.

There's no time to rest now. Grove has accomplished a lot in his short football career, but this is a young man who wants to be remembered for greatness. He doesn't want to just be that guy from Forest who played a couple of years in the League.

"I still feel like I have a lot of things to prove," he said. "I think that's one of the biggest mistakes people make is to get comfortable with where they are because every year (NFL teams) are looking to replace guys. I want to play for a long time and be successful, and to do that you kind of have to stay on your toes.

"You can't get comfortable in what you're doing at your position or with anything. You just have to keep fighting every day and working hard."

The NFL doesn't provide guaranteed contracts, giving teams the freedom to release and sign players as they please. Because of that, Grove is motivated even more to be a productive player.

"Who knows what's going to happen next year? I just hope I'm there," Grove said. "That's the nature of the business. You never know. I want to be there. I have no reason to think I won't be there. NFL contracts aren't guaranteed, so you can get that phone call at any time."

Grove doesn't just have his sights on sticking around in the NFL, though. When his career is said and done, he wants everybody to remember him as a great player, competitor and teammate.

Who knows? Maybe someday the Raiders will retire his jersey, too.

[Angry Pope]

Matt Hasselbeck's father played in one of Super Bowls...

Happy Father's Day!
June 19, 2005




The NFL has included many father/son combinations throughout its history and the Raiders are no exception. Currently, four sons of former NFL players can be found on the Raiders roster - QB Marques Tuiasosopo, LB Jay Foreman, DT Ted Washington and DE Grant Irons. In honor of Father's Day, we have compiled a list of NFL players whose fathers or sons have worn the Silver and Black over the years. Happy Father's Day Raider Nation!

OG Sam Adams, Sr. - 1972-80 New England Patriots
DT Sam Adams, Jr. - 2002 Oakland Raiders

TE Billy Cannon - 1964-1969 - Oakland Raiders
LB Billy Cannon - 1984 Dallas Cowboys

DE Tony Cline - 1970-1975 Oakland Raiders
TE Tony Cline - 1998 Oakland Raiders

DE Vince Dennery - 1941 New York Giants
LB Mike Dennery - 1974-1975 Oakland Raiders

RB Tony Dorsett - 1977-87 Dallas Cowboys, 1988 Denver Broncos
FS Anthony Dorsett - 2000-2003 Oakland Raiders

DT Alphonse Dotson - 1968-70 Oakland Raiders
DE Santana Dotson - 1992-95 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1996-01 Green Bay Packers, 2002 Washington Redskins

RB Chuck Foreman - 1973-79 Minnesota Vikings, 1980 New England Patriots
LB Jay Foreman - 2005 Oakland Raiders

DB Dave Grayson - 1965-70 Oakland Raiders
LB David Grayson - 1987-90 Cleveland Browns, 1991 San Diego Chargers

T Herb Hannah - 1951 New York Giants
G John Hannah - 1973-85 New England Patriots
T Charley Hannah - 1983-88 Los Angeles Raiders

TE Don Hasselbeck - 1983 Los Angeles Raiders
QB Matt Hasselbeck - 1998-2000 Green Bay Packers, 2001-present Seattle Seahawks
QB Tim Hasselbeck - 2002 Philadelphia Eagles, 2003-04 Washington Redskins, 2005 New York Giants

LB Gerald Irons - 1970-75 Oakland Raiders
DE Grant Irons - 2003-present Oakland Raiders

G Gordon Jolley 1972-75 Detroit Lions, 1976-77 Seattle Seahawks
TE Doug Jolley 2002-04 Oakland Raiders

DB Joe Krakoski - 1963-66 Oakland Raiders
LB Joe Krakoski - 1986 Washington Redskins

DB Ronnie Lott - 1991-92 Los Angeles Raiders
LB Ryan Nece - 2002-present Tampa Bay Buccaneers

LB Marv Marinovich - 1965 Oakland Raiders
QB Todd Marinovich - 1991-92 Los Angeles Raiders


CB Kent McCloughan - 1965-70 Oakland Raiders
DB Dave McCloughan - 1991 Indianapolis Colts, 1992 Green Bay Packers, 1993 Seattle Seahawks

RB Charlie Smith - 1968-74 Oakland Raiders
TE Kevin Smith - 1992-95 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders

DT Manu Tuiasosopo - 1979-83 Seattle, 1984-86 San Francisco
QB Marques Tuiasosopo - 2001-present Oakland Raiders

LB Ted Washington - 1973-82 Houston Oilers
DT Ted Washington - 2004-present Oakland Raiders

DB Howie Williams - 1964-69 Oakland Raiders
DB Gardner - 1984 Detroit Lions

CB Alvin Wyatt - 1970 Oakland Raiders
WR Antwuan Wyatt - 1997 Philadelphia Eagles

[CrossBones]

Great stuff there Mr. Pope! :D

That video brought back great memories...

Art Thoms was a wild man on the Dl.
Jack Squierk's interception in the Super Bowl sealed Washington's doom.
Jack Tatum hit like a Mack Truck. Man that guy was intense.

For those who love the Glory Days and reminiscing, be sure to buy the DVD "The Complete History of the Oakland Raiders" ...it's just not to be missed.

[Angry Pope]

Here are more thoughts from Mario...

Getting ready for everything


(Defensive end Mario Williams is considered one of the top prospects in the 2006 NFL Draft. As a junior at North Carolina State, Williams helped lead the Wolfpack to a 7-5 record and a shutout bowl victory over South Florida. Williams' 14½ sacks and 24 tackles for loss propelled N.C. State to a No. 8 national ranking in total defense.)

(Feb. 2, 2006) -- Everything's going great. Everything we're doing out here in Phoenix is top notch. The weather is great. I like to go outside and run on the field because conditions are very good.

We're going to have a little get-together and have a party for the Super Bowl. We just talk about the game a little bit and plan on watching the game on TV. We don't analyze the game too much; we leave that up to (the media).

But before the Super Bowl, I know I have to start somewhere. I have always had a dream that I could one day be in the NFL and be playing on Super Sunday. Of course, I have always had a dream like this, but I have always taken it one step at a time from high school to college, then college to the NFL. It's a good feeling to have as well.


Mario Williams was about 290 pounds entering API, and is now bigger and stronger.

You must have confidence. You can't be too over-cocky, but at a certain point you know it's time to get it going -- time to put up or shut up. Being at API (Athletes' Performance), I'm with some NFL guys who are there now. I am going up against them, competing and giving it my all. I'm trying to make a statement as soon as I step onto the field. There's no doubt in my mind of my ability and what God has given me to go out there and put it on the field. I have no lack of confidence whatsoever.

We have position drills; whoever plays your position (among the NFLers) comes in and we'll do drills. They teach us techniques and little tips to read offensive linemen and to know what's going on before it happens. Just be prepared and know what to do to counter that. That's going well, also.

We're really, really focused on core strength here; being stable and being able to transfer power efficiently as fast as possible. The little things like that -- and it's always the little things -- are the ones that are really going to go a long way. Having good core strength and stability makes things easier, as far as having balance and leverage on your opponent. That's the No. 1 thing I really have to key in to as I actually go into the NFL and start playing.

The NFL is a little bit of a big man's game and a speed game, but at the same time, you have to be smart. You have to know what the opponent is going to do. I think it all comes down to it being mental. You need to know what to do in this situation or that. I consider myself a little bit of both a big guy and a fast guy. I've gotten a lot bigger now; I've gained straight muscle recently. I'm not putting on any bad weight. And I think I am also getting faster. From the times we wrote down, I have actually gotten faster.

The best advice to give younger players right now is just listen. The No. 1 thing that helps you out tremendously is paying attention to coaching and being coachable. Listen to the techniques. There will come a time when you have to believe in the system. If you don't, it's really going to hurt you and it's going to be tougher for things to happen, especially when you have a great coach that knows the ropes and knows the little things. That's the one thing I would do in the NFL -- just listen to what they tell me, how they tell it to me, how to come off the ball, how to use my hands. You have to learn the ways and techniques of the game.

Dominating in high school and college

Before the ball is snapped, I could hear them ask for help. A lot of times, especially toward the end of my college career, we actually ran a three-down front and I heard a tackle on almost every play yell, "cover me, cover me!" It was a lot of respect. Hopefully there will be a time in the NFL when I can get that respect.

I guess I was bigger than everybody else in high school. It was more or less just going out there and running around. We had plays and stuff like that, but when we got to college, it was more of role playing. And when I get to the NFL, it's going to be even more of that. It's going to be strictly this or that.

I've just gotten bigger every time I have stepped up to the next level. I'm already drastically bigger in the three weeks I have been training at API. I just feel like working with them and having them push us to the limit will help me be a pretty big force when training camp comes around.

[CrossBones]

I really hope we can get this guy but it's becoming more and more unlikely.

First we have the coin flip to contend with which might slide us another spot and make Mario a pipe dream. Even at #6 it's iffy if Mario will still be there. Dominating defensive ends are hard to find and most great ones are home grown -- meaning that they are drafted high and generally stay with their drafting team throughtout the best years of their career.

I'm fearful that Green Bay will take him at #5 and depending upon what the Jets do with John Abraham they could even figure into the mix for Super Mario.

Articles like the one Angry Pope posted above aren't making things any easier for the Raiders. The article shows this guy to be a hard worker and a good citizen with lofty goals for himself. Teams notice this.

The querstion for me is if Williams is gone and we have a crack at A.J. Hawk wil Al put aside the past failures at drafting linebackers and take Hawk at #6/7? It scares me because this is a situation where Al has been know to reach for a player that nobody has rated this high. I'd rather take a chance with Hawk than some guy with huge measurables that can't play football.

[JC]

I really hope we can get this guy but it's becoming more and more unlikely.

First we have the coin flip to contend with which might slide us another spot and make Mario a pipe dream. Even at #6 it's iffy if Mario will still be there. Dominating defensive ends are hard to find and most great ones are home grown -- meaning that they are drafted high and generally stay with their drafting team throughtout the best years of their career.

I'm fearful that Green Bay will take him at #5 and depending upon what the Jets do with John Abraham they could even figure into the mix for Super Mario.

Articles like the one Angry Pope posted above aren't making things any easier for the Raiders. The article shows this guy to be a hard worker and a good citizen with lofty goals for himself. Teams notice this.

The querstion for me is if Williams is gone and we have a crack at A.J. Hawk wil Al put aside the past failures at drafting linebackers and take Hawk at #6/7? It scares me because this is a situation where Al has been know to reach for a player that nobody has rated this high. I'd rather take a chance with Hawk than some guy with huge measurables that can't play football.

I have this sick feeling that it's gonna be a TE, seriously. I will put a foot through my TV on draft day if our first rounder is not a defensive player.

[Rupert]

Let's hope Grove repeats his feats of greatness.

[Rupert]

What the F do we need a TE for? Al should move up to grab Mario. If he's at API, he's only going to get better.

[JC]

What the F do we need a TE for? Al should move up to grab Mario. If he's at API, he's only going to get better.


I am not in favor of a TE...I just know the old bag that runs the show around here has a thing for size/speed numbers rather than talent. Mario does light up the stat sheet, I want him, and we should move up, let's dance with the Jets!!!!

[Angry Pope]

Here is the audio to in case you ever wondered about what he was like....



Vince Lombardi gives his pre-game address in the locker room of Super Bowl II....

Vince..... (http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0601/sb_lombardi_pregame.MP3)



Vince Lombardi speaking to the team in the locker room after winning Super Bowl II....

Vince II... (http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0601/sb_lombardi_postgame.MP3)




Packer great Willie Davis during a private locker room meeting before Super Bowl II....


Willie Davis... (http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0601/sb_willie_davis.MP3)

[Angry Pope]

Here is part of a mock draft by TSN done after the Senior Bowl...

1 (1) Texans Reggie Bush* RB USC

This might be the last hurrah for GM Charley Casserly. The Texans are happy with RB Domanick Davis, so expect Casserly to explore all options to gain extra picks and fill his team's many needs. But if Houston can't find a trading partner, Bush will be the pick. The offense would instantly become more dynamic by using Bush in multiple roles to complement Davis as the inside power runner.

2 (2) Saints Matt Leinart QB USC

New Saints head coach Sean Payton coached Drew Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde, both big pocket passers, in Dallas. Leinart is both of those things and more. Now that the coaching situation is settled, all signs are that Leinart will be the pick here and that he'll be thrilled to be the franchise guy.

3 (3) Titans D'Brickashaw Ferguson T Va.

Ferguson exceeded high expectations at the Senior Bowl. Not only is he the best tackle in the draft, but some think he's also the best player available. Tennessee head coach Jeff Fisher and his staff coached Ferguson at the Senior Bowl; all indications are that QB Steve McNair will be back and will feel even better knowing that Ferguson will be protecting his blind side.

4 (4) Jets A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio St.

The Jets have several needs, but Hawk will be the best remaining player on the board here. He'll help anchor the linebackers unit for new head coach Eric Mangini, a disciple of Bill Belichick and the 3-4 defense.

5 (5) Packers Jimmy Williams CB Va. Tech

The Packers' defense overachieved at the end of last season, but the team's most glaring weakness is in the secondary -- especially at cornerback, where Al Harris needs help. Williams has the talent and experience to start immediately.

6 (6) Raiders Mario Williams* DE NC State

Because of Mathias Kiwanuka's struggles at the Senior Bowl, Williams has jumped to the top of the DE list for most teams. He has the power and speed to be a dominant speed rusher and a solid two-way end opposite pass rush specialist Derrick Burgess. (Pick subject to coin flip.)

7 (7) 49ers Chad Greenway OLB Iowa

Head coach Mike Nolan is defensive-minded and will continue to run a 3-4 scheme, but three of his four starting linebackers are eligible free agents. Greenway can play either outside position or weakside inside linebacker, and his playmaking ability would be welcomed by a defense struggled mightily last year. (Pick subject to coin flip.)

8 (8) Bills Haloti Ngata* DT Oregon

The Bills have been weak up the middle since Pat Williams left, and Sam Adams has struggled to remain healthy and stay out of the doghouse. The team needs a dominant run stuffer to protect its athletic linebackers and take some pressure off its pass-rushing defensive ends.

[Angry Pope]

We may play on Thanksgiving Day in the future....

Mickey Spagnola

DETROIT - Not to worry about changing your Thanksgiving Day football watching tradition.

The Dallas Cowboys will continue to play in their traditional 3 o'clock time slot, according to NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

There have been several reports over the past two weeks claiming the Cowboys and Redskins would kick off the NFL Network's Thanksgiving night TV schedule this year, which would lend national appeal to the network's foray into broadcasting NFL regular-season games.

But when delivering his state of the union address here Friday at Super Bowl XL, Tagliabue, without directly being asked, shot down the stories that have been suggesting otherwise.

When talking about the NFL's new Thursday-Saturday TV schedule, which will be instituted late in the season, Tagliabue touched an additional game being played on Thanksgiving, saying, "Although the (Thursday-Saturday) package in some years will kick off on Thanksgiving night, we will continue to have the traditional Dallas and Detroit games on CBS and Fox. We'll have another game in a different city as the opening - as the third game on Thanksgiving - and our goal there would be to start a new tradition, which is to have a third game on Thanksgiving that would rotate around to different cities in the league who have been anxious for many years to host games."

Many Cowboys fans have been expressing concerns about the Thanksgiving Day game being played at night on the NFL Network since cable providers in many cities still don't subscribe to the league's network. But from the start, when the NFL first came up with the idea for a third Thanksgiving Day game, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said he had no interest in giving away his 3 o'clock time slot to play in the night game.

Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple said Jones has always wanted to maintain the tradition of the Thanksgiving game, which has been played at Texas Stadium for the past 30 consecutive years and has become part of the team's lore.

The 2006 NFL schedule will not be released until late March or early April. But since the game will be on Fox this year, prime opponents for the holiday game would seem to be Tampa Bay or one of the NFC East teams. The Cowboys have not played Tampa Bay at Texas Stadium since the 2001 season opener, losing with rookie quarterback Quincy Carter starting, 10-6. That was the only time the Bucs have played at Dallas since 1990, when the teams played home and away

[JC]

What are those guys smoking? Where's Vince Young on that draft list?

[Angry Pope]

Here is the rest of it up to 17....

9 (9) Lions Michael Huff S Texas

New head coach Rod Marinelli will bring a defensive mentality and an attacking scheme to Detroit. The Lions have talent on defense but need a leader in the secondary to give them some flexibility and to pull together a disjointed unit.

10 (10) Cardinals Vince Young* QB Texas

After Young slips past the Titans at No. 3, each team's QB needs will be filled until he falls into the Cardinals' lap here. Head coach Dennis Green would be thrilled at the prospect of developing the next Daunte Culpepper to team with the Cardinals' young, playmaking wide receivers.

11 (11) Rams Vernon Davis* TE Maryland

New head coach Scott Linehan, the former Dolphins offensive coordinator, will transform the Rams' offense to feature a more balanced attack. And to do that, the Rams will need a two-way tight end. Davis will fit the bill.

12 (12) Browns DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama

The key position in coach Romeo Crennel's 3-4 defensive scheme is outside linebacker. Howard has the athleticism and speed to play in the open field and have an impact as a pass rusher.

13 (13) Ravens LenDale White* RB USC

The Ravens' running game disappeared in '05, and it needs to be more effective for the team to compete in the AFC North. Even if free agent Jamal Lewis re-signs, it will be short-term deal. White possesses the size and speed the team needs to re-establish its physical style of play.

14 (14) Eagles Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston Coll.

The team needs a two-way end to line up opposite Jevon Kearse. Although Kiwanuka struggled at the Senior Bowl, he still has a rare combination of size, speed and athleticism for the position.

15 (15) Falcons Tye Hill CB Clemson

The Falcons like to attack the line of scrimmage with their front seven and need cornerbacks who can play man-to-man outside. Hill would play immediately as the nickel back and quickly could move in as the starter opposite DeAngelo Hall.

16 (16) Dolphins Jay Cutler QB Vandy

After the hype has worn down and Cutler is put under the microscope, the talk of him being a top-10 QB will subside. But the Dolphins would be thrilled to draft him here. Head coach Nick Saban knows Cutler from his days in the SEC; that knowledge served Saban well last year with the selection of Ronnie Brown.

17 (17) Vikings Laurence Maroney* RB Minnesota

New coach Brad Childress needs a playmaker to supplant Michael Bennett and Mewelde Moore, who failed to get the job done in '05. And new owner Zygi Wilf could use a hometown guy to help market the Vikings.

[Angry Pope]

Here is more news on Grove...

Grove's JF Jersey Retired

Friday February 03, 2006 7:51pm
Reporter: Dennis Carter Posted By: Jeff Taylor


Forest, VA - Jefferson Forest High School will honor one of its all-time greats Friday night. The Cavaliers will retire the high school number 71 of former high school and Virginia Tech All-American Jake Grove, who now plays for the NFL's Oakland Raiders.

Grove was honored as the top center in the nation for the 2003 season, winning the Rimington Trophy, and was picked in the second round of the NFL Draft in April of 2004. Grove will be honored at halftime of tonight's JF boys’ basketball game against Heritage.

[Angry Pope]

Here are a couple of interesting things regarding ACLs....

....While Kim Young He worked three jobs in Forest Park, Hines played three positions – quarterback, tailback and wideout – at Georgia. His versatility was a godsend in college but a deterrent to the NFL. He was a classic tweener; no one knew how to fit him in. Things got worse when a doctor examining his left knee at the combine looked up and said, "Damn, son, you have no ACL."

"That's great," Ward said. "Then I can't tear it."

"No, that's not great," the doctor said.

The ACL lost its life somewhere in Forest Park, the fatality stemming from a bicycle accident when Hines was 9. It caused his already iffy, what-position-does-he-play stock to drop more. The Steelers took him in the third round in 1998, and he spent his rookie year on special teams. The next year he became a starter and tied for the team lead with 61 catches. But the Steelers kept drafting receivers: Troy Edwards No.1 in 1999, Plaxico Burress No.1 in 2000. Ward took it personally.

and...

Bears G Roberto Garza is a great story. He started 15 games for the Falcons in 2004, but teams backed off him in the free-agent market after discovering he had no ACL in his right knee. He signed with the Bears for a minimal deal and developed into a valuable swingman. Garza didn't miss a practice all season. The Bears have decided to have a cadaver's ACL surgically implanted in Garza's knee in the coming offseason, and they recently invested in him long term with a six-year deal and $4 million signing bonus. Former Bills RB Thurman Thomas also managed to play without an ACL. .

[CrossBones]

WOW...I tore mine and had surgery and it hasn't been the same since. Always flaring up for one reason or another. Can't imagine how anybody could function without an ACL in their knee especially a pro football player. That is absolutely incredible.

[Rupert]

Bones: I think the key would have to be their losing it early enough for the other ligaments and muscles to compensate for its lack. Incredile adaptable body. It's why the workout guru whose books I have suggests that kids play ALL kinds of sports as children and do NOT focus on one. He says that it develops the muscles and ligaments in various ways and strengthens the entire body instead of building it for a few specific tasks.

[Angry Pope]

Odds on Owens...

Which team will controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens be playing for next season? The online BetUS.com offers these odds: Tampa Bay 10-to-11 (bet $11 to win $10), Denver 6-to-4 (bet $4 to win $6), Atlanta 4-to-1, Miami 4-to-1, Oakland 7-to-1, Green Bay 8-to-1, Washington 10-to-1, New Orleans 20-to-1, "any other team" even money, "Philadelphia will decide to keep him" 20-to-1, "no team will hire him next season" 5-to-2, and "he will never play in the NFL again" 300-to-1.

[Angry Pope]

Here are the top free agents ranked and graded...

QB

Drew Brees QB 6-0 209 7.5 Unrestricted San Diego
Jon Kitna QB 6-2 225 7.0 Unrestricted Cincinnati
Chris Simms QB 6-4 220 6.8 Restricted Tampa Bay
Kurt Warner QB 6-2 219 6.8 Unrestricted Arizona
Josh McCown QB 6-4 213 6.7 Unrestricted Arizona


RB

Shaun Alexander RB 5-11 225 9.2 Unrestricted Seattle
Edgerrin James RB 6-0 214 9.0 Unrestricted Indianapolis
Jamal Lewis RB 5-11 245 9.0 Unrestricted Baltimore
Ahman Green RB 6-0 218 8.8 Unrestricted Green Bay
DeShaun Foster RB 6-0 222 7.3 Unrestricted Carolina
Michael Bennett RB 5-9 211 7.1 Unrestricted Minnesota
Chester Taylor RB 5-11 213 7.0 Unrestricted Baltimore


FB

Jeremi Johnson RB 5-11 265 7.1 Restricted Cincinnati



TE

Chris Baker TE 6-3 258 6.8 Unrestricted NY Jets
Dan Campbell TE 6-5 262 6.8 Unrestricted Dallas
Aaron Shea TE 6-3 248 6.8 Unrestricted Cleveland
Visanthe Shiancoe TE 6-4 250 6.7 Restricted NY Giants



WR

David Givens WR 6-0 215 7.9 Unrestricted New England
Reggie Wayne WR 6-0 198 7.6 Unrestricted Indianapolis
Nate Burleson WR 6-0 197 7.4 Restricted Minnesota
Antonio Bryant WR 6-2 188 7.4 Unrestricted Cleveland
Keenan McCardell WR 6-1 191 7.3 Unrestricted San Diego
Antwaan Randle El WR 5-10 192 7.0 Unrestricted Pittsburgh
Kevin Curtis WR 5-11 186 6.8 Restricted St. Louis
Brandon Lloyd WR 6-0 184 6.8 Restricted San Francisco
Koren Robinson WR 6-1 205 6.3 Unrestricted Minnesota
David Tyree WR 6-0 205 5.4 Restricted NY Giants



OT

Jon Runyan OT 6-7 330 7.5 Unrestricted Philadelphia
Jeff Backus OT 6-5 305 7.3 Unrestricted Detroit
Kyle Kosier OT 6-5 309 6.9 Unrestricted Detroit
Kevin Shaffer OT 6-5 290 6.9 Unrestricted Atlanta
Tom Ashworth OT 6-6 305 6.8 Unrestricted New England
Torrin Tucker OT 6-6 315 6.5 Restricted Dallas
L.J. Shelton OT 6-6 345 6.4 Unrestricted Cleveland
Wayne Hunter OT 6-5 303 6.1 Restricted Seattle



OC

Mike Flanagan C 6-5 301 8.0 Unrestricted Green Bay
LeCharles Bentley C 6-2 313 7.5 Unrestricted New Orleans
Jeff Mitchell C 6-4 300 7.5 Unrestricted Carolina
Trey Teague C 6-5 300 7.3 Unrestricted Buffalo
Justin Hartwig C 6-4 312 7.0 Unrestricted Tennessee



OG

Steve Hutchinson G 6-5 313 7.9 Unrestricted Seattle
Stephen Neal G 6-4 305 6.9 Unrestricted New England
Tutan Reyes G 6-3 310 6.5 Unrestricted Carolina
Jonathan Goodwin G 6-3 318 6.5 Unrestricted NY Jets
Terrence Metcalf G 6-3 318 6.5 Unrestricted Chicago
Montrae Holland G 6-2 322 6.4 Restricted New Orleans
Fred Weary G 6-4 308 6.4 Unrestricted Houston



K

Adam Vinatieri K 6-0 202 7.0 Unrestricted New England



cont'd...

[Angry Pope]

cont'd...

DE

Darren Howard DE 6-3 275 7.9 Unrestricted New Orleans
John Abraham DE 6-4 258 7.6 Unrestricted NY Jets
Raheem Brock DE 6-4 274 7.4 Unrestricted Indianapolis
Anthony Weaver DE 6-3 280 7.4 Unrestricted Baltimore
Robert Mathis DE 6-2 235 7.3 Restricted Indianapolis
Cory Redding DE 6-4 290 7.0 Restricted Detroit
Kalimba Edwards DE 6-6 265 6.9 Unrestricted Detroit
N.D. Kalu DE 6-3 265 6.8 Unrestricted Philadelphia
Aaron Kampman DE 6-4 278 6.8 Unrestricted Green Bay
Kyle Vanden Bosch DE 6-4 278 6.4 Unrestricted Tennessee



DT

Orpheus Roye DT 6-4 305 7.4 Unrestricted Cleveland
Grady Jackson DT 6-2 345 7.3 Unrestricted Green Bay
Damione Lewis NT 6-2 301 7.2 Unrestricted St. Louis
Chris Hovan DT 6-2 298 7.1 Unrestricted Tampa Bay
Kimo von Oelhoffen DT 6-4 299 7.0 Unrestricted Pittsburgh
Maake Kemoeatu DT 6-5 350 6.9 Unrestricted Baltimore
Ryan Pickett NT 6-2 310 6.9 Unrestricted St. Louis
Larry Tripplett DT 6-2 295 6.9 Unrestricted Indianapolis
Kindal Moorehead DT 6-2 285 6.9 Restricted Carolina
Lional Dalton DT 6-1 315 6.5 Unrestricted Kansas City
Antwan Lake DT 6-4 308 6.2 Restricted Atlanta



LB

Julian Peterson LB 6-3 235 9.2 Unrestricted San Francisco
Akin Ayodele LB 6-2 251 7.5 Unrestricted Jacksonville
Will Witherspoon LB 6-1 231 7.3 Unrestricted Carolina
David Thornton LB 6-2 230 7.2 Unrestricted Indianapolis
Derek Smith LB 6-2 245 7.1 Unrestricted San Francisco
Nick Greisen LB 6-1 245 6.9 Unrestricted NY Giants
Ben Leber LB 6-3 244 6.9 Unrestricted San Diego
Brad Kassell LB 6-3 242 6.8 Unrestricted Tennessee
Cato June LB 6-0 227 6.7 Restricted Indianapolis
Bart Scott LB 6-2 240 6.4 Unrestricted Baltimore



CB

Nate Clements CB 6-0 209 9.0 Unrestricted Buffalo
Charles Woodson CB 6-1 200 7.4 Unrestricted Oakland
Jerry Azumah CB 5-10 192 7.2 Unrestricted Chicago
Brian Williams CB 5-11 207 7.1 Unrestricted Minnesota
Roderick Hood CB 5-11 196 7.1 Restricted Philadelphia
Will Allen CB 5-10 196 7.0 Unrestricted NY Giants
Ricky Manning Jr. CB 5-8 185 7.0 Restricted Carolina
R.W. McQuarters CB 5-10 195 6.9 Unrestricted Detroit
Deshea Townsend CB 5-10 190 6.9 Unrestricted Pittsburgh
Andre' Goodman CB 5-10 185 6.8 Unrestricted Detroit
Kenny Wright CB 6-1 207 6.4 Unrestricted Jacksonville
Ike Taylor CB 6-1 191 5.6 Restricted Pittsburgh


S

Adam Archuleta S 6-0 223 7.7 Unrestricted St. Louis
Will Demps S 6-0 205 7.4 Unrestricted Baltimore
Tank Williams S 6-3 223 7.3 Unrestricted Tennessee
Corey Chavous S 6-1 206 7.2 Unrestricted Minnesota
Chris Hope S 5-11 206 7.0 Unrestricted Pittsburgh
Marlon McCree S 5-11 202 6.9 Unrestricted Carolina
Dexter Jackson S 6-1 203 6.7 Unrestricted Tampa Bay
Sam Brandon S 6-2 200 6.3 Unrestricted Denver

[Angry Pope]

Here are thoughts by Otto in an article about pain and glory....

....However, today's football players, as a rule, won't suffer nearly as greatly as their predecessors from 30 years ago. That's because the field of medicine has advanced, and so have salaries. This means current players are cared for much better any way you examine their working conditions.

"A lot of the young so-called heroes don't play like the old heroes," former Oakland Raiders center Jim Otto said. "They will leave the game sooner in many ways. You will get a Jerry Rice, who had one or two knee surgeries. But he didn't get beat up like an interior lineman or a linebacker.

"Guys today don't play as long because they have money. They don't have to worry about their future. I always felt I had to do good to take care of my family."

Otto, who never missed a game for the Raiders (210 straight), is the poster boy for retired NFL players. His dedication to duty was unparalleled. He was named All-Pro after playing a full season with every ligament torn in one knee. Even getting him to sit out a practice was inconceivable.

Otto's loyalty to the Silver and Black, though, has led to post-career physical afflictions unlike any other NFL alumnus. He has had more surgeries, more factory-made body parts and more near-death experiences, yet he pushes onward with 10 times more grit, too.

"I don't want people to say, 'He played too long. I'm not going to do what he did,'" Otto said. "I enjoy my life every day."

So much so that Otto refuses to be seen by current Raiders players while walking with the aid of crutches or a cane, even though he certainly warrants additional support. He leaves the crutches and cane at home.

[Angry Pope]

JIM OTTO

Age: 68
Residence: Auburn
Position: Center
College career: Miami (Fla.), 1957-59
Pro career: Oakland Raiders, 1960-74

"I really haven't gained any strength yet since my illness this summer and fall. On June 7, I was in toxic shock. My wife was in Colorado Springs. It was a very difficult situation that came up for her. She called, I mumbled something. She found a young deputy sheriff to come to the house.

"I went from the hospital at UC Davis to Stanford, where doctors took my leg apart. The artificial knee was inflamed — the fourth major infection I've had in my right knee in eight years. I'm very fortunate to be alive. (Ex-Rams wide receiver) Jack Snow died a month ago from an infection in his hip.

"I got very sick at Stanford. I thought I could die at any moment. Then I had a heart problem come up in the hospital; the infection attacked my heart. From June 6 to November was one of the most miserable times of my entire life.

"There are all kinds of things happening to me. I'm in remission from (prostate) cancer. There's scarring on my liver from infections. I'm on heavy antibiotics every day. I feel puny, but I'm getting better.

"I've had 52 major surgeries, three this summer. I've had 12 artificial knees, and four artificial shoulders. I've had steel rods put in my back a couple different times, because some vertebrae were wiped out.

"I'm a Christian man, and I pray every day. I kept asking God this summer if he wanted me now. Everything turned all white around me. Things grew calm. By the grace of God, I'm still here.

"A doctor told me that if it wasn't for what I put my body through as a football player, I would not have been able to handle the stress of the infections, and the stress of the fevers. My body was that strong.

"I was driven to win, driven to accomplishment, driven to prove something: I wanted to be the best. And all I wanted was a pat on the back; I didn't need any money. I just wanted people to appreciate me.

"I still get around to functions, and people say, "Gosh, you look great, Otto." That's the pat on the back that keeps me going, and I'm ready to take on the world."

[CrossBones]

I have some thoughts on Jim Otto that I'll post later. I just read his book about a month ago.

[Angry Pope]

Here is a nice story about Van Eeghen and our Raiders...

Jim Donaldson: Van Eeghen recalls the rowdy Raiders

01:00 AM EST on Sunday, February 5, 2006

Mark van Eeghen won two Super Bowls with the Oakland Raiders.

He led the team in rushing for five years in a row, from 1976-80, and led the entire AFC in '77, resulting in one of the great thrills of his career -- being pictured on a football card alongside NFC rushing leader Walter Payton the following year.

Van Eeghen, a Cranston native, played with nine future Hall of Famers with the Raiders: Fred Biletnikoff, George Blanda, Willie Brown, Dave Casper, Ted Hendricks, Howie Long, Jim Otto, Art Shell and Gene Upshaw.

But he never went cruisin' with the Tooz.

"Absolutely not," van Eeghen said this week. "That would have been a dangerous thing. When I went out, I stayed with the offensive linemen."

It was 25 years ago, at Super Bowl XV in New Orleans, that the late John Matuszak, aka "Tooz," went on a midweek rampage that was typical of the rollicking Raiders of that era.

"Teddy Hendricks and I were sitting in his hotel room that Wednesday night," Matuszak wrote in his autobiography, Cruisin' With The Tooz. "Suddenly, I got a powerful urge to check out Bourbon Street. The only problem was, it was already 2 in the morning."

While that's still fairly early in the evening by Bourbon Street standards, it's way, way beyond curfew by the standards of virtually every football coach.

"At 6-foot-8 and 280 pounds, I've never been much for clandestine maneuvers," Tooz wrote. "I walked right through the hotel lobby, barreled into a cab and headed for Bourbon Street. It was wild, even by Bourbon Street's standards. There were mobs of people on every corner.

"I stopped in a bar called the Absinthe House for a couple of drinks. Then I had a few dances. Then I hit a couple of other clubs. Before I knew it, I was officially, successfully and irrevocably unwound."

Later that morning, Tooz showed up 50 minutes late for the Raiders' league-mandated one-hour session with the media.

"My blood-red eyes were hiding behind a pair of sunglasses," he wrote. "My hair resembled Don King's. I had on an old pair of loafers without any socks."

Dick Vermeil, who then was coaching the NFC-champion Eagles, was appalled.

"He'd be home by now (if he played for Philadelphia)," Vermeil said.

But Oakland coach Tom Flores merely fined Tooz $1,000, while his teammates, instead of being angry about his escapades, found them amusing.

"We all had a good laugh," van Eeghen recalled. "The Tooz floated like a cork on the ocean. Wherever the waves took him, he went. A lot of us on the team were like that.

"I think what he did helped us. He let people know it was just another week. We enjoyed the hell out of New Orleans. But everybody knew their limits -- even Tooz. He didn't go out later in the week. We all knew what we were there for, and we weren't about to disappoint ourselves.

"When you live, week in and week out, with (team owner) Al Davis saying: 'Just win, baby,' they don't worry about you. They know you're going to be ready."

Those Raiders were ready for anything -- on the field or off it.

"Just win -- that's all we wanted to do," van Eeghen said. "Any rule, guideline or discipline that had nothing to do with winning wasn't observed. We played hard. They let us be men."

They were men with names such as Snake -- quarterback Kenny Stabler -- and the Mad Stork, Hendricks, a 6-7, 220-pound outside linebacker.

"We had a big, wooden stockade fence all around our practice fields at training camp in Santa Rosa," van Eeghen said. "As we were warming up one day, we noticed Hendricks wasn't there. He was a big guy -- hard to miss. We started wondering: 'Where the hell is he?'

"That's when, across the field, we noticed a German soldier's helmet, the kind with the spike on top, painted black and silver, moving along the fence line, going up and down. It would go up, then it would disappear. Up, then down.

"Ted had rented a horse and was galloping him around the field. He came riding through the entrance gate, right on to the field to where the linebackers were, hopped off, slapped the horse on the rump -- it galloped off -- and said: 'OK, let's go.' "

Stabler always was ready to go.

"I remember one year," said van Eeghen, "we were playing in New York. Even though we had bed check, everybody went out because, with the time difference, midnight was like 9 p.m.

"I remember walking into our pregame meal at 8 a.m. that Sunday and seeing Snake. I asked him: 'What time did you get in?' He looked at me and said: 'Mark, I'm just gettin' in.'

"Fortunately, we won the game, although he did throw three picks. We had to pick him up that day."

Many other days, it was Stabler who carried the team.

"On the field," said van Eeghen, "he led with a quiet confidence. He'd look you in the eye in the huddle, say to you: 'We need this,' and you'd try your best to get it for him."

cont'd....

[Angry Pope]

cont'd...

In Biletnikoff, Stabler had one of the best receivers ever to play the game.

"Freddy was a nervous guy," van Eeghen said. "Before games, he'd chain-smoke in front of his locker -- one cigarette after another. But he was the best route-runner and pass-catcher I'd ever seen.

"He and Stabler and Pete Banaszak were always together. Those three were trouble. One time at training camp, the three of them had slipped out when coach (John) Madden came by for a bed check. He flipped the light switch on, and Biletnikoff's bed lit up. He'd left the lamp on his pillow. Madden just howled. You could hear him all over the dorm. That really hit his funny bone.

"Fred was a jokester and a prankster. But he also was a workaholic."

And what was Madden like?

Generations have grown up thinking of him as a colorful commentator and effusive pitchman for a variety of products. But, from 1969 to 1978, he took the Raiders to seven conference championship games, losing five times before finally winning in 1976, then going on to rout Minnesota, 32-14, in Super Bowl XI in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena.

"On the field," said van Eeghen, "he was extremely intense. You could never take anything personally he'd say to you. If I fumbled, I'd go the long way around him to the bench. If I had to go by him, I knew he didn't really mean what he was saying.

"But what we see on TV is the real John. He's a quick-witted guy who loves a good joke."

Madden always liked the story of how defensive lineman Charles Philyaw came up to van Eeghen one day and, in all seriousness, asked: "Hey, man, how come you get both names on your jersey and the rest of us only get one?"

On the road and in training camp, van Eeghen roomed with Casper, who had played tackle on Notre Dame's undefeated national championship team in 1973 but shifted to tight end in the NFL.

"To me," said van Eeghen, "he was the tight end who changed the position. I know there was Russ Francis and Kellen WInslow. But David was 265 pounds and had the blocking technique of an offensive lineman. He loved to block. He also could run, and had a great pair of hands."

At 6-2, 225, van Eeghen wasn't blessed with that kind of athletic ability, but he made the most of what he had. When he was waived by the Raiders just before the 1982 season, he was the team's all-time rushing leader.

"I wasn't the biggest, strongest or fastest guy," he said. "My God-given ability was quickness. I got off the ball well and was able to get in and out of a hole in a hurry."

There usually were holes, opened by Shell, Upshaw, right tackle John Vella, who'd been an All-American at Southern Cal, and center Dave Dalby.

Even the Raiders' punter, Ray Guy, was a standout -- ranking as one of the best in NFL history.

After winning a Super Bowl with Stabler at quarterback, the Raiders won another one with Jim Plunkett at the controls. Plunkett's career had seemed to be all but over when he landed in Oakland after stints with New England and San Francisco. But after opening the year as a backup to Dan Pastorini, Plunkett became the starter when Pastorini broke a leg in the fifth week of the season and went on to be the MVP of Super Bowl XV, in which the Raiders beat the Eagles, 27-10.

"Danny knew he wasn't going to play in that Super Bowl," said van Eeghen, "so he figured he could partake of more fun than the other guys. The Monday before the game, he hired a limo to bop around New Orleans. He took the offensive linemen, and me.

"We wound up in a place that had one of those mechanical bulls that were popular then. Pastorini got on, and the bull threw him. I decided to give it a try. I hung on for a while before getting thrown off.

"I woke up the next morning and couldn't walk. I'd been squeezing the bull so hard that my inner thighs ached so much I couldn't get into my stance. Thank goodness Tuesday was a defensive day. Our trainer, George Anderson, worked on me and, by Wednesday, which was an offensive day, I was kind of back. By Saturday, I was running around again with abandon."

Running around with abandon was something at which those legendary Raiders excelled.

"I remember Carl Garrett, a running back who had bounced around a few places, was with us one day in training camp when we were a little upset with Madden because he was keeping us on the field when we wanted to get to the bar where we all hung out and played foosball. We were really bellyaching, and Carl said: 'You guys ought to shut the hell up. You don't understand what you have here.'

"When it was time to work," said van Eeghen, "we all worked. But we had a hell of a lot of fun along the way."

[CrossBones]

Oh how this makes me yearn for the Raiders to win the Super Bowl again.

It's been too long. We need more players like those who blazed the trail for the Oakland Raiders.

[Angry Pope]

Here is that run by Marcus Allen that was a record until today...

Marcus... (http://media.putfile.com/allen29)

[Angry Pope]

Here are the franchise tag and transition tag tender amounts for the 2006 season at various positions.

Defensive Ends

Franchise: $8,332,000
Transition: $7,075,000


Linebackers

Franchise: $7,169,000
Transition: $6,144,000


Cornerbacks

Franchise: $5,893,000
Transition: $4,744,000


Defensive Tackles

Franchise:$5,656,000
Transition:$4,463,000


Safeties

Franchise: $4,109,000
Transition: $3,592,000

[Rupert]

Or 120% of their 2005 contract amount.

[Angry Pope]

Or 120% of their 2005 contract amount.

Yes, whichever is higher.

[Angry Pope]

Here are the rest of the franchise tag and transition tag tender amounts for the 2006 season....


Quarterbacks

Franchise: $8,789,000
Transition: $8,327,000


Wide Receivers

Franchise: $6,172,000
Transition: $5,160,000


Offensive Linemen

Franchise: $6,983,000
Transition: $6,391,000


Running Backs

Franchise: $6,085,000
Transition: $5,153,000


Tight Ends

Franchise: $3,327,000
Transition: $2,718,000

[Angry Pope]

We probably won't go after any receivers but here is some information on the WRs available via free agency...

2006 NFL Free Agents: Wide Receiver
By: Thomas J Gersey

1. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis [83 rec, 1008 yds, 5 td]

Wayne is very close to being the complete package. He has soft hands, and consistently makes the easy catches. He can make the acrobatic ones, but not often enough to be considered an elite, game changing player. His speed is better than average, though some top notch corners will be able to keep up with him. His strength is excellent route running. He has excelled in Indianapolis, where precise routes will get you the football consistently with Peyton Manning behind center. So effective has Wayne become that the past two years he has gone from a distant number 2 receiver, to the Colts' 1(a). He definitely benefits from his supporting cast, and it is tough to say whether or not he could be a #1 on a less talented team. However, he is certain to be more like P Burress than P Price if he were to change teams.

GOOD FITS: Chicago, Atlanta, Denver, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Washington, Indianapolis

EARLY PICK: Wayne is a player who will be most effected by the actions of Edgerring James. If James and Dwight Freeney sign large deals, Wayne will likely find a huge payday elsewhere. If James leaves, the Colts will keep Wayne, and maintain their dominance through the air. In the event Wayne does leave, he will likely seek a situation where he either be the number 1 guy from day one, or be 1(a) again, with top receiver status looming in the near future. He would be more of a complementary player in Chicago or Washington, and those are run-happy offenses. In Denver, he would replace Ashlie Lelie as Rod Smith's heir apparant, and maintain his place on a winning ball club. Teams like KC and Philly make the most sense, where there are established passing offenses in place with Pro Bowl caliber QBs calling the plays. I expect KC to make a very strong push for his services.

2. Antonio Bryant, Cleveland [69 rec, 1009 yds, 4 td]

Putting up a 1000 yard season in Indy is one thing, but doing it in Cleveland with a more heralded first rounder flanking you is another. Bryant is the prototypical receiver, with good size, and very good speed. He runs very efficient routes, and gets off the line exceptionally quick. Though his speed gets him into his routes early, he does not have break away speed in the deep open field, although his strength and body control allow him to position himself for the deep bal very well. He has the desire and competitive spirit you want in a top receiver, and will fight any corner on every pass. He was a top 15 talent as a college junior, but demonstrated immaturity as a senior and slipped to the late second round, so there are questions about his attitude. However, he has been a solid citizen in Cleveland and if those doubts are erased, would be an excellent fit on any team looking for a dependable number 2 receiver.

GOOD FITS: Minnesota, Baltimore, Carolina, Houston, Tennessee, Washington, Cleveland, Atlanta

EARLY PICK: Bryant is a wild card, because there is little information in regards to how teams perceive him. He has been under the radar, with the thought that he could break out in the right situation. Where he will end up is anyone's guess, but a team with a solid passing game and a need for a quick, physical receiver would be the perfect fit. Atlanta would be a great team for Bryant, as Mike Vick could use a dependable receiver who will fight for wayward passes. In Carolina, he would be a great Robin to Steve Smith's superman, while in places like Tennessee or Baltimore, he could be the number one receiver in title only, as those offenses will look to move the ball around evenly.

3. Antwan Randle El, Pittsburgh [35 rec, 558 yds, 1 td]

A converted quarterback, there was never any question that Randle El's athleticism would convert to the next level. However, there has always been a question as to whether or not he could pick up the nuances of the position. In his 4 years in the league, Randle El has put those worries to rest, and become Slash II in the Pittsburgh system. Randle El is agile and shifty, almost impossible to get a direct hit on. He has sufficient size and strength to go in the middle of the field, and often performs better there, where a quick pass allows him to out-manuever linebackers one-on-one. On a team that emphasises the run game, there aren't many opportunities for a third receiver, however, Randle El has consistently made the most of his time on the field. Couple with that his track record as a return man, and his value to a contender could be considerable.

GOOD FITS: Chicago, Pittsburgh, New England, San Diego

EARLY PICK: Rumor has it that Chicago is already targeting Randle El this free agent season. Typically, the Bears identify a player they want, and they do what it takes to get him (see: Muhammad, T Jones). This year should be no different. Expect the Bears to overpay for Randle El, and put him in the slot, where he is comfortable, giving Rex Grossman a more reliable option than he has had in the past. Throw in Randle El's Illinois roots, and it becomes a match made in heaven.


cont'd....

[Angry Pope]

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4. Keenan McCardell, San Diego [70 rec, 917 yds, 9 td]

Excellent hands and a feel for his place on the field, McCardellis the type of number 1 receiver you like to have. He has the inate ability to find holes in the zone and get open on a consistent basis. He isn't a speed burner, and can be shut down by elite corners, but even then, he manages to get his 4-5 catches and find space in the end zone. He is nearing the end of his career, and at 36 is a risky proposition as a free agent. However, with the success of guys like Jerry Rice and Joey Galloway recently, production is all that matters, and McCardell is certainly capable of that. Similarly sized to Antonio Bryant, he isnt nearly as strong or as physical, and will not win as many battles as he loses. A possession receiver at this point, but with the ability to stretch the field when the defense allows it. Not very strong after the catch.

GOOD FITS: San Diego, Houston, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Denver

EARLY PICK: McCardell's place is on a team seeking a stop gap, an effective receiver to hold down the position until a younger player can fill it. Teams like Carolina, New England and Denver are super bowl contenders who could strengthen already effective offenses with a savvy veteran like McCardell. In the long run, San Diego can't afford to lose him right now, and will work hard to sign him to a short term deal before the free agent period. Houston is the wild card. With Gary Kubiak and Reggie Bush joining the Texans, McCardell would be the perfect supplement to the young and athletic Andre Johnson. McCardell is a Houston native, and ending his career at home isn't too far fetched an idea.

5. Joe Jurevicius, Seattle [55 rec, 694 yds, 10 td]

The prototypical possession receiver. All he does? Catch touchdowns. When Darrell Jackson went down with an injury, Jurevicius stepped up and saved the Seahawks season. This is his third Super Bowl appearance with his third different team, which says something about his contribution in the locker room. He is a top notch character guy, and brings more than athletic gifts to any team. He has excellent hands, and size that rivals most tight ends. At 6'5, 230 lbs, Jurevicius fits great in the slot, where he can handle linebackers, or on the outside, where he can screen smaller defensive backs. He is smart and seasoned, and knows how to get open. Seattle would love to keep him, and will likely try their best to do so. But after a Super Bowl run with more pressing free agents, there just may not be enough money.

GOOD FITS: Seattle, Washington, Carolina, Denver, Pittsburgh

EARLY PICK: Where he will end up is anyone's guess. He fits best with a contender who relies on a ball control offense. Seattle and Carolina aren't really his best fits, but he would be a sound complimentary receiver in either offense. The memories of Ed McCaffery are still fresh in the minds of Broncos fans, and Jurevicious could easily be a similar complement to Rod Smith for the next couple years. A player like Jake Plummer needs as many veteran players on the field to be effective. In Washington, he would team well with a player like Mark Brunell, and offer the soft touch to compliment the lightning of Santana Moss. Pittsburgh makes a great deal of sense. The Steelers rarely make big name signings, instead spending their money wisely on role players. With Randle El likely to leave, Jurevicius (who played at Penn State) could step in and be a third sure handed target for the conservative Rothlisberger.

OTHER FREE AGENTS OF NOTE:

Koren Robinson, Minnesota: A gifted receiver with significant problems catching the ball, Robinson had a late season rebirth after legal troubles got him released in Seattle. Still young and talented, some team will give him an incentive-laden shot in the hopes of untapping his undeniable potential.

David Givens, New England: He and Troy Brown are solid if unspectacular Patriot receivers available this offseason. In today's NFL, Givens is the type of player not exciting enough to warrant a long look from other teams, who will end up signing with his previous team for a reasonable amount.

Brandon Lloyd, SF/ Kevin Curtis, STL/ Nate Burleson, Minn: These are the top notch restricted FAs. Lloyd is going no where, as the Niners cant afford to lose anyone with any talent currently in red and gold. Curtis was a revelation in St Louis, and it is possible a bad team may overpay for his speed and excitement....and make a huge mistake. Burleson was supposed to supplant Randy Moss as the go-to guy in Minnesota, and will likely re-sign for a second shot under new guidance. Patience, however, is wearing thin.

[Angry Pope]

Here is some information on the free agent offensive linemen available...

2006 NFL Free Agents: Offensive Linemen
By: Thomas J Gersey

1. Steve Hutchinson, RG, Seattle

Hutchinson is widely considered the prize in this year's group of free agent offensive linemen. A solid, technically sound guard, Hutchinson won't wow you by obliterating pass rushers. He will however hold his ground against anybody in the league. Still only 28 years old, he has become a perennial Pro Bowler, and was an All-Pro this past season. 6-5, 313 lbs, he is built like a left tackle, but he uses his size as leverage on the right side of the line to hold his ground and prevent the opponent from peeling off and making plays. He plays under control, getting good first steps in the run game, while getting off the line in the passing game, allowing him to create proper holes for his runners, and giving his passers adequate time to get through their reads. He also pulls well, and would be a great fit on a team focused on the ground game while supplanting it with a conservative passing game.

GOOD FITS: Seattle, Minnesota, Washington, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay, Oakland, New York Jets

EARLY PICK: Seattle has been going through this for some time now, knowing that their best players are going to be free agents. First it was Walter Jones, then Hasselbeck and Alexander. Now Hutchinson creates a dilemma as both he and Alexander are free agents this season. Many consider re-signing Alexander a no-brainer, but there have been some in the know who believe maintaining the core of the offensive line and handing the job to Maurice Morris may be the more prudent move. Most likely, the 'Hawks will give a long term deal to Alexander, while franchising Hutchinson for this season, then weighing their options next year. They have needs at defensive end and wide receiver, so they will have some decisions to make. If Seattle does let Hutchinson walk, Washington and Minnesota seem like perfect fits. Both need a right guard, and with the potential departure of Culpepper in Minnesota, both run a similar ball control offense, predicated on minimizing mistakes, that would highlight Hutchinson's skills. If neither is a fit, Cincy, Tampa, Oakland and the Jets could all use a Pro Bowl guard.

2. LeCharles Bentley, C, New Orleans


Bentley has good size at 6'2, 313, but it better known for his quickness. Quick footwork gets him out of his stance, and out blocking linebackers when necessary. His is lithe and swift off the snap, and is the rare center who can get out and pull. For all of his size, he does tend to get pushed around by very physical nose tackles, as his slight lack of lower body strength keeps him from maintaining position against a fierce bull rush. However, Bentley is tenacious and fiesty, and will not give up even when he appears to be overmatched. He is smart and consistent, and makes good adjustments at the line. Only 26, Bentley is better when he can get out and move, unblocked, and would fit best with a team that can surround him with Pro Bowl caliber players.

GOOD FITS: Buffalo, Atlanta, Carolina, New England, NY Giants, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, New Orleans

EARLY PICK: New Orleans has a few free agents, but Bentley is the only one who is a must re-sign. It is possible he would be franchised, but the question remains how wise that would be with a center. However, with the Saints likely to rebuild around Matt Leinart or Vince Young, protecting their investment makes the most sense. Look for the Saints to retain Bentley at any and all costs. If not, any of the above listed contenders would be a fantastic fit. Most notably, the Steelers are said to be very interested in Bentley.

3. Jon Runyan, RT, Philadelphia


At 6'7, 330, Runyan is a mammoth blocker who locks on to an end shuts him down at the point of attack. Only the fastest, most athletic ends can hope to evade Runyon, but anything less than the best, and Runyon will clamp down, and control a pass rusher. He excels in short yardage situations, where his nasty streak comes into play, and he can maul everything in front of him. A very good run blocker, he is a superb pass blocker, acting as a wall between the defender and his quarterback, forcing them far outside their rush lanes. He is seldom beaten by double moves, and for all of his size, has a sound technique. His only drawback is his age, though linemen have a greater life expectancy in the league than other players. Would be worth a 3-4 year deal from a contender.

GOOD FITS: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Baltimore, New England, San Francisco

EARLY PICK: Runyon is likely to remain in Philadelphia, where they can't afford to lose him. Atlanta is in the market for elite lineman, as is San Francisco, who has holes everywhere. New England and Baltimore could use upgrades at Right Tackle, and Runyon is the best of the bunch.

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4. Mike Flanagan, C, Green Bay


Flanagan is emblematic of the new breed of lineman, smaller, but able to rely on good technique with his hands and feet to excel in run block schemes. Flanagan is at his best when allowed to block back, or to set up precise blocking angles, and would fit well with a team that focuses on blocking schemes, rather than a "smash mouth" style. Flanagan is consistent, and rarely makes a mistake. However, he can be overpowered, but even then, he does not get beat so badly as to pose a threat to his quarterback. He also performs well in the shotgun formation, and shows great ability to adjust to stunts and blitzes, picking up players who beat his guards. Like Runyon, age is an issue.

GOOD FITS: Green Bay, Atlanta, New England, Tampa Bay, Buffalo, Carolina

EARLY PICK: After the departure of Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle last season, and the debacle that followed, the Packers would be loathe to let another elite blocker walk this season. Expect the Packers to bring Flanagan back as they attempt to squeeze a final season out of Brett Favre. If he walks, Flanagan would excel in Atlanta where they run similar blocking schemes to the Broncos, relying on trapping and pulling. Buffalo and Carolina may lose their centers, creating holes in those lines.

5. Jeff Backus, LT, Detroit


Still only 28, this former first rounder is your typical fill in the blank kind of lineman. Nothing super special, he won't hurt you. You can stick him into the line, and forget about him. He is tough, aggressive, and intelligent, with a sound work ethic and technique. He lacks ideal size, but he will scrap and fight when he feels he is getting beat. Will never give up on a play, though he may still get beat by an elite pass rusher. He will never overpower a player, but he also will rarely get run over. Slightly above average, he should be on the shopping list for any team with severe problems on the left side.

GOOD FITS: Detroit, Cleveland, San Francisco

EARLY PICK: Detroit will likely keep Backus in the Silver and Blue, but a team like Cleveland could look to Backus if LJ Shelton were to walk. The Niners are also in a major rebuilding mode, and Backus would be the perfect low cost option, someone they could plug in and leave ther for 10 years.

OTHER FREE AGENTS OF NOTE:

LJ Shelton, LT, Cleveland: Shelton is a massive left tackle, who has just never fully developed. Excellent talent, but something has always been lacking. If he could harness his ability, and learn to be more of a force inside, Shelton could be a real steal. San Fran should take a look at him, and the Lions should take a look at this Michigan native should Backus walk.

Vicor Riley, RT, Houston: Excels against smaller ends, and can get beat by more athletic players. An 8 year veteran, he has good technique and strength, and has learned how to makeup for initial mistakes. Not an elite lineman, he is a solid upgrade for many teams. May be a good fit in Arizona.

Jeff Mitchell, C, Car/Melvin Fowler, C, Minn/Justin Hartwig, C, Tennessee/Andy McCollum, C, St Louis: Along with Flanagan and Bentley, there is a bumper crop of centers this season. Most teams will likely keep their centers, but as soon as one walks, look for a game of musical chairs to take place as teams scramble to fill needs. All four of these guys would fit in well anywhere. None is a pro bowl caliber player, but all are solid, dependable veterans.

[Angry Pope]

Here is some information on free agent linebackers available...

2006 NFL Free Agents: Linebackers
By: Thomas J Gersey

1. Julian Peterson, OLB, San Francisco [83 tkls, 3 sacks]

Peterson is clearly the cream of this year's linebacking crop, despite continuing worries about his durability. Over the years, he has played OLB, ILB, DE, SS and CB, demonstrating the superior athleticism that separates superstars from the rest of the league. Were it not for nagging injuries, Peterson would have been locked up as the team's cornerstone defensive player long ago. However, with the Niners having numerous problems elsewhere, they are sure to be hesitant to tie up so much money in a risky player.

Peterson has that rare first step that gets him off the line immediately, and makes him a top notch pass rusher. What puts him into the elite group of linebackers is that he isnt pigeon-holed as either a "cover guy" or a "pass rusher". With his speed, Peterson can chase down any ball carrier, and can even stretch out into coverage on passing downs. If he can stay healthy, he will be well worth the money he will command, and could take a contender to the next level.

GOOD FITS: Miami, NY Giants, Houston, Oakland, Detroit, Arizona, Baltimore, Chicago, San Francisco

EARLY PICK: Peterson is more than an filler. He is likely to be pursued by teams that need an OLB, but also by teams looking to add another superstar to an already effective defense. Teams like Baltimore or Chicago, who don't need a superstar linebacker, may pursue Peterson with the idea of making a strong unit unstoppable. Teams like Houston, Arizona, Oakland and Detroit will all be anxious to put a difference maker on the defensive side of the football. Arizona is an up and coming team, where Peterson would become the best player on a good defense as well as a team leader. Arizona has a good group of youngsters in Lance Mitchell and Daryl Blackstock at the LB position, and they may prefer to stick with developing who they have. In the end, Miami, New York and the Niners appear to be the top destinations for a player of his calibur. No team is more linebacker hungry than the Giants, and Peterson would be the type of player who could take a good Giants team to the elite level. Meanwhile, Miami is coming off of a surprisingly good 9-7 campaign. Reuniting Peterson with his college coach, Nick Saban, makes alot of sense. He would immediately team with Zack Thomas and Channing Crowder to form one of the league's most imposing units. In the end, I believe the Niners will hold on to Peterson, with either the franchise tag or a long term deal. For all of the Reggie Bush talk this season, their real holes are at offensive line, wide receiver and pass rusher. Losing a player who could fill one of those roles would be a an egregious error.

2. Andra Davis, ILB, Cleveland [149 tackles] (Editors Note: Davis was resigned by Cleveland)

Although he lacks the talent of a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher, he plays a similar sideline-to-sideline style that would be welcome on any team. A gifted athlete in college, Davis slipped to the 5th round, and has made up for lost time by quickly becoming the top playmaker for the Browns. He is a smart player who has good instincts when pursuing ball carriers. With a 6'1, 250 lbs frame, Davis sheds blockers very well, and is able to maintain pursuit. His major weakness is in the passing game, where he struggles to keep up with quick tight ends or backs coming out of the backfield.

Davis is an unrestricted free agent whom the Browns will make every effort to sign. With a good deal of room under the cap, he doesn't have the kind of name recognition that will lead to the kind of bidding war that would keep the Browns from retaining him.

GOOD FITS: NY Giants, Indianapolis, Tennessee, Cleveland

EARLY PICK: As stated above, Cleveland has to be considered the leader in the race for Davis. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns lock him up before the free agent period begins. If he does go to the open market, Tennessee is sure to go after him with all it has. Brad Kossell played the best he could for the Titans, but Davis would be a tremendous upgrade over the later rounder from North Texas.

3. Cato June, ILB, Indianapolis [102 tackles, 5 int, 2 TD]

Coming out of no where, Cato June went from unknown to potential Defensive Player of the Year. In his third year out of Michigan, June showed the complete skills any defensive coordinator would be happy to rely on on a weekly basis. Obviously, June solved his problems with coverage, as evidenced by his 5 interceptions and 2 touchdowns. A very good athlete, June's major knock ahd always been an inability to get proper depth in zone coverage. Not only did he improve in that area, but he also demonstrated the ability to be an effective man defender as well. While he did manage 102 tackles, he continues to have problems shedding larger blockers in pursuit. June excels in the proper scheme, and would likely have difficulty being the focal point of a younger, less talented defense.

Everyone wants to know where the Colts are going to spend their money. With Edgerring James, Reggie Wayne, and three linebackers about to hit the free agent market, someone has to go. After the season he had, you can be sure the Colts will make every effort to maintain the services of June.

GOOD FITS: Indianapolis, NY Giants, Detroit, Oakland, Tennessee

EARLY PICK: The Colts are sure to franchise James and sign Reggie Wayne, if they can. With three excellent linebackers all free agents, they will have to choose who stays and who is expendable. My guess is that June will be a priority this offseason, and will remain in Indy. If not, New York would be eager to bring him in with an equally talented OLB, while teams like Detroit and Oakland may see him as the cornerstone of a young defense going forward.

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4. Akin Ayodele, OLB, Jacksonville [72 tackles, 4 FF]

Very good athlete with tremendous size at the OLB spot. Ayodele has slowly been coming on the past few years, and is finally showing the talent that was promised. 6'2, 251 lbs, Ayodele is the type of player who, when he hits you, you stay hit. Shows great explosion and burst out of his stance, he blows up tight ends off the line, and wraps up well on ball carriers. His biggest problem has been a lack of wind, and coupled with mediocre pass coverage, he is limited to being a two-down player. Slightly limited in his hip movement, he can be beat by quick runners around the outside. However, given the opportunity to line up a ball carrier, he is lights out consistent.

GOOD FITS: Jacksonville, Miami, New Orleans, Oakland, Houston, Dallas

EARLY PICK: A Dallas native, there is no reason to think he wouldnt be interested in returning to the big D. With Dat Nguyen likely to retire, and Scott Fujita and Eric Ogbagu free agents, Ayodele would fit perfectly in the Tuna's scheme opposite the explosive DeMarcus Ware. Houston may also come calling if they dont believe Jason Babin can step up and take his place in the starting lineup. If not, a replacement for Shantee Orr may be on their list of priorities. Oakland and New Orleans will likely seek to bring in a player of his caliber, young and less expensive than the premier free agents. Jacksonville, however, does not lose much this year, and can likely afford to bring Ayodele back, even franchising him if need be.

5. Will Witherspoon, OLB, Carolina [80 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 2 int]

The key to Witherspoon is that he is playing at an exceptional level, while being young enough to continue to improve. Very active from the outside, Witherspoon can move through blockers to get to the ball carrier, arriving often at full speed. He is a ball hawk, looking for the turnover when he meets the football. He has very good sideline-to-sideline speed, and consistently makes the play in the open field. On a team like Carolina, he is lucky to see alot of runners get through the front line, and is left to fight Dan Morgan and Mike Minter for tackles, meaning that his total of 80 on the season is no small feat. Witherspoon would fit very well on a young defense that focuses versitile, speedy linebackers who look to force turnovers.

GOOD FITS: Miami, Chicago, Houston, Arizona, New Orleans, Dallas, Oakland

EARLY PICK: Can Carolina afford to let Witherspoon walk? There is little to indicate that they feel he is irreplacable, though he has become an integral part of their top three defense, and losing him would definitely create a hole. With greater needs, especiall at running back, it is likely that the Panthers will choose to spend their money elsewhere. It is unlikely they would franchise Witherspoon, and pay top dollar for a second tier linebacker. It is more likely that a struggling team will look to overspend for a player like Witherspoon, who still has alot of room to grow. Chicago would be a very intersting choice, as Witherspoon plays similar to Lance Briggs, and would likely excel in the Bears' defensive scheme. A Texas native, he would also look good in Houston, where he would fit well with a young team, or Dallas, where they would be able to continue to get younger on defense. Teams like New Orleans, Oakland and Arizona continue to be in the mix for every young, explosive linebacker.

OTHER FREE AGENTS OF NOTE:

Antwan Peek, OLB, Houston (RFA): The ex-Cincinnati Bearcat has a ton of potential, and finally got a look in Houston this season. It is likely that any term sheet he signs will be affordable, and quickly matched. Has the look of becoming everything Jason Babin was supposed to.

Ben Taylor, OLB, Cleveland: Very smart player who recognizes opposing schemes nad positions himself well to make the play. Put together 110 tackles while playing alongside all everything linebacker Andra Davis. Would fit well with a team looking to supplement an existing solid corps of linebackers.

Gary Brackett, OLB, Indianapolis: Another potential casuality as the Colts are stuck with numerous quality players about to become free agents. If Reggie Wayne walks, the Colts are sure to keep June and Brackett on board as the core of an elite defensive unit. If they decide to hold on to Wayne, June and James, there is likely to be little remaining for the solid Brackett (127 tackles, 3int). A good tackler in space, Brackett isnt spectacular, but he is consitent, and would fit good with a team like the Giants, Dolphins or Lions.

Nate Webster, OLB, Cincinnati: After losing his job to rookie Odell Thurman, Webster now looks to be expendable for the Bengals. Still young and athletic enough to start, Webster is likely to catch on somewhere where he will have an opportunity to start. Would be a great fit in New Orleans, Detroit, Arizona or Oakland.

Ronald McKinnon, ILB, New Orleans: The consumate pro. A great pass defender, McKinnon has also been a tackling machine over the years. Stuck in a bad situation in New Orleans, McKinnon was called upon to be the focal point of the defense. McKinnon would be better served along side other veterans, on a playoff calibur team, where he would likely put up numbers to rival Cato June's. That being said, a team like Indianapolis would be a perfect fit, as they need a solid veteran replacement should they lose any linebackers, and McKinnon's skill set would be ideal for the Colts' scheme. If not, the Giants are likely to come calling, or perhaps Philadelphia or Detroit.

[Angry Pope]

Here is some information on defensive linemen available via free agency...

2006 NFL Free Agents: Defensive Line
By: Thomas J Gersey

1. John Abraham, DE, New York Jets [58 tkls, 11.0 sacks, 6 FF]

One of the elite pass rushers in the league, Abraham has accumulated 53.5 sacks in his six year career. Despite gaudy sack numbers, Abraham has also shown excellent skill as a run stopper, with the speed to shut off the outside route for speedy runners. At 258 lbs, Abraham lacks the ideal size for an end, but any more size would limit his speed, which is his real strength. His first step is quick enough to beat almost any lineman, but Abraham can get repetitious in his moves, and needs to do a better job of mixing up his looks. Only 27, any team acquiring Abraham would be able to plug in an elite pass rusher for the next 5 years.

GOOD FITS: New York Jets, Minnesota, Washington, San Francisco

EARLY PICK: Abraham has been franchised repeatedly, and this year will likely be no different. With new head coach Eric Mangini, defense will again be a priority in New York, and Abraham is one of the team's cornerstones. If the Jets allow him to walk, it will take a free spender looking to upgrade significantly to lure him away. Minnesota would be a great fit where they are desparate to revamp their identity, and money will not be an object. Meanwhile, Washington has a fantastic defense, which only lacks a premier pass rusher. Expect a player like Abraham to provoke Dan Snyder into opening the pocket book.

2. Darren Howard, DE, New Orleans [33 tkls, 4.0 sacks, 2 FF]

Howard has been a bit of an enigma during his 6 years in the league. One year, he looks like the next premier pass rusher in the game. The next year he struggles to play a full season. Howard has had injury problems hte pas three years, so any team pursuing him will have to factor that in. Howard has been franchised, as well as shopped, in the past. After a year of turmoil and the hiring of an offensive minded HC, look for hte Saints to finally cut ties with Howard. He is a great athlete for his size, and has shown the ability to rush the passer consistently in the past. He is also a load, and could move to DT if needed with his 275 lbs frame. However, he is susceptible to double teams, and has trouble adjusting once he turns the corner. Still 29, if he can stay healthy he would be worth the risk. Could be had for good value with an incentive-laden deal.

GOOD FITS: OAK, ARIZ, DET, CLEV, CINCY

EARLY PICK: Oakland seems like the perfect fit. He is still young, with explosive athletic ability. He would come cheaper than in years past, though you can expect a team like the Raiders to still overpay. After hitting it big with Derrick Burgess last season, Howard could be the perfect bookend for the woeful Raiders. If not Oakland, a young team like Cincy or Arizona may snatch up Howard for a reasonable price.

3. Larry Tripplett, DT, Indianapolis [30 tkls, 4.0 sacks]

Tripplett may seem like an odd pick this high, but considering the value he may be had for, he could be the perfect fit on a contender looking to upgrade the DT position. Tripplett has good size, and the ability to shed double teams on a consistent basis. What he lacks in intensity, he makes up for with intelligence. He reads block schemes well, and anticipates plays rather than reacting to them. If he were to add strength in the weight room, he could move into the upper tier of tackles.

GOOD FITS: SEA, BUFF, IND, GB

EARLY PICK: Another Colt free agent, the first question becomes: who do they keep? If Tripplett is amongst the lucky, then expect him to resign with Indy. However, it is likely Indy will deem him replaceable, and he will get a quality offer elsewhere. Seattle has serviceable lineman, but bringing home the former UW star would seem like the perfect fit. Holes in Green Bay and Buffalo may lead Tripplett to head to one of those two rebuilding teams where money will be spent a bit more recklessly.

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4. Kyle Vanden Bosch, DE, Tennessee [66 tkls, 13.0 sacks, 4 FF]

After three years as a complimentary player in Arizona, Vanden Bosch found a home starting for the rebuilding Titans. Only 27, it appears that he has learned how to harness his gambling tendencies, and maintain control at the line of scrimmage. At 278 lbs, he possess excellent size for an end, but also has great overall athleticism. One on one, he has the ability to defeat similar sized lineman. When engulfed by larger players, or double teamed, he has a tendency to play high and get pushed around. When his technique is sound, he brings great pressure, and has plenty of time to develop even further.

GOOD FITS: TENN, MINN, DET, CLEV

EARLY PICK: vanden Bosch may get attention elsewhere, but he has found a home in Tennessee and will likely sign before the free agent period begins.

5. Orpheus Roye, DT, Cleveland [88 tkls, 3.0 sacks, 4 PD]

Roye quietly had one of the better seasons by a lineman this past season. Traditionally, tackles are hard to come by from the interior, but Roye managed an amazing 88, while also defending 4 passes in zone blitz coverage. At 6-4, 305, Roye is built for the interior, but is agile enough to move along the line. Much like a Tommie Harris, Roye doesn't get alot of sacks, but does create alot of pressure. At age 32, he would be a perfect addition to a contender looking to solidify its interior defense with a veteran presence.

GOOD FITS: NYG, BALT

EARLY PICK: Roye is likely to get alot of attention, but a veteran team, with super bowl potential, makes the most sense for him. The Giants spent this past season weak on the defensive line, and may lose one of those players. Roye would be the ideal player to take pressure off of superior pass rushers Omenyioura and Strahan. Meanwhile, Baltimore could use an upgrade on the line, especially if Anthony Weaver were to leave.

OTHER FREE AGENTS OF NOTE:

Chris Hovan, DT, Tampa Bay: Despite 6 years in the league, Hovan is still only 27 years old. He has had alot of personal problems, but played solidly in Tampa Bay this year without any problems. He may be on the verge of resdiscovering himself as an elite tackle, if he can get into a good situation. Hovan may resign in Tampa, but a place like Philadelphia or the Giants would be a good situation. However, signing with St Louis or Oakland seems more likely, and less ideal for his well being.

Damione Lewis & Ryan Pickett, DT, St Louis: With Jimmy Kennedy waiting in the wings, its likely one of these two will be let go. Both are very young and talented, but have yet to break through and display the production that was expected of them. Young teams like Green Bay, New Orleans, Arizona, Detroit and Oakland may take a look at these guys, who could provide high reward for their risk.

Anthony Weaver, DE, Baltimore: At 6'3, 280, Weaver can play inside or on the end. As an end, Weaver gets solid penetration by overpowering smaller lineman. Inside, he can maintain a blocker long enough to peel off and make plays. Baltiore will likely keep the 25 year old on board at an affordable price, where he should develop into an above average lineman.

Ryan Denney, DE, Buffalo: The perfect example of a player who gets more out of his talent than others. Denney is an average athlete, but extremely tough and aggressive. Doesnt get to the quarterback very often, but is very effective against the run. Will likely remain in Buffalo, but might fit well opposite an elite pass rusher elsewhere.

Kimo Von Oelhoffen, DT, Pittsburgh: The perfect cog in a top notch defense, von Oelhoffen is the type of player who acts as the glue between players. He may not get the stats, but without him, no one else would. At age 34, he is likely to resign with Pitt and finish out his career tutoring a midround pick. One place he won't be next season is Cincinnati.

[Angry Pope]

This set up is probably the best as far as ease of use for free agents available...



Free Agent List.... (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=9&c=12&nid=83&lnid=83&yr=2006
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Angry Pope --- you are AMAZING!

Thanks so much for all this great information. :D

[Angry Pope]

I didn't know they start posting odds so early....

Colts the odds makers favorite for 2007 despite Steelers Super Bowl win

Monday February 6,

Sportsbook.com first to post odds on NFL futures bets


NEW YORK, NY, Feb. 6 /PRNewswire/ - Indianapolis will make another run for the Vince Lombardi trophy according to odds makers at Sportsbook.com, the world's largest online sportsbook and casino. The Colts 2007 Super Bowl odds are listed at 4-1 with Super Bowl XL Champions, the Pittsburgh Steelers at 8-1 and Denver, New England, San Diego and Seattle rounding out the top spots at 10-1.
Despite losing to eventual Super Bowl champs Pittsburgh, Peyton Manning will once again lead Indianapolis' charge and fans are confident the team will return at full strength next season, wiser and more experienced.

"The Colts still have the best QB in football and some people think too much attention and focus was put on their run for a perfect season. They never seemed to regroup after their first loss and the personal tragedies that befell Tony Dungy," said Alex Czajkowski, Marketing Director, Sportsbook.com. "There's no reason to believe, at this point, that bettors will sour on the Colts. They'll be backing Indianapolis again next year."

In the NFC, the Seattle Seahawks are tied with the Carolina Panthers to take the conference title at odds of 7-2. Chicago, Dallas, New York, Philadelphia and Washington are in hot pursuit at 7-1. Indianapolis is the favorite at 2-1 in the AFC followed by the Steelers at 9-2 and Denver, New England and San Diego all at 6-1.

"There could still be some huge factors that could shift the odds in coming months", added Czajkowski. "Possible trades, the unknown injury status of Donovan McNabb and the always unpredictable Terrell Owens could all change the landscape significantly."


Complete NFL odds can be found at www.sportsbook.com.

2007 Super Bowl Odds


Indianapolis Colts 4-1
Pittsburgh Steelers 8-1
Denver Broncos 10-1
New England Patriots 10-1
San Diego Chargers 10-1
Seattle Seahawks 10-1
Carolina Panthers 14-1
Cincinnati Bengals 15-1
Kansas City Chiefs 15-1
Chicago Bears 20-1
Dallas Cowboys 22-1
New York Giants 22-1
Philadelphia Eagles 22-1
Washington Redskins 22-1
Atlanta Falcons 30-1
Jacksonville Jaguars 30-1
Minnesota Vikings 30-1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 30-1
Miami Dolphins 35-1
Baltimore Ravens 40-1
Oakland Raiders 50-1
St Louis Rams 60-1
Arizona Cardinals 75-1
Detroit Lions 75-1
Buffalo Bills 100-1
Cleveland Browns 100-1
Green Bay Packers 100-1
Houston Texans 100-1
New York Jets 100-1
Tennessee Titans 100-1
New Orleans Saints 200-1
San Francisco 49ers 200-1



2007 NFC Championship Odds------ 2007 AFC Championship Odds


Carolina Panthers 7-2 ------- Indianapolis Colts 2-1
Seattle Seahawks 7-2 -------- Pittsburgh Steelers 9-2
Chicago Bears 7-1 ------- Denver Broncos 6-1
Dallas Cowboys 7-1 ------ New England Patriots 6-1
New York Giants 7-1 ------ San Diego Chargers 6-1
Philadelphia Eagles 7-1 ------ Cincinnati Bengals 8-1
Washington Redskins 7-1 ------ Kansas City Chiefs 8-1
Atlanta Falcons 10-1 ------ Jacksonville Jaguars 17-1
Minnesota Vikings 13-1 ------- Miami Dolphins 18-1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13-1 ------- Baltimore Ravens 22-1
St. Louis Rams 25-1 ------ Oakland Raiders 27-1
Arizona Cardinals 30-1 ------ Buffalo Bills 50-1
Detroit Lions 30-1 ------ Cleveland Browns 50-1
Green Bay Packers 40-1 ------- Houston Texans 50-1
New Orleans Saints 75-1 ------- New York Jets 50-1
San Francisco 49ers 75-1 -------- Tennessee Titans 50-1

[Angry Pope]

Here are some of the celebrity Super Bowl picks....

JAMIE FOXX, actor/singer Pittsburgh. If you look at Pittsburgh's history, the way they play football, even when they were playing my team, the Dallas Cowboys, back in that time, they relied on defense, and defense wins championships.

BILL GATES, world's richest man Seahawks

JACK NICKLAUS, golfing legend Pittsburgh, 27-24

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-Ariz. Pittsburgh by 10

SEN. JOHN KERRY, D-Mass. Pittsburgh. It's going to be a hgh-scoring game. 31-28. Why? Five words: Pittsburgh's own Teresa Heinz Kerry.

CONDOLEEZZA RICE, Secretary of State I picked Pittsburgh to beat Cincinnati. I have picked against them every game since. I'm not picking against them again. So I think I believe the Steelers are going to win it.

ANDRE AGASSI, tennis star Pittsburgh. It's hard not to get on the Pittsburgh train, isn't it? It seems like they have destiny on their side.

JENNIE FINCH, softball star Pittsburgh, 27-21. Terry Bradshaw played for them. He and my husband are from Louisiana. The Bus is headed back home to Detroit and they have luck on their side (uh um, the Colts game).

SASHA COHEN, Olympic figure skater Seattle

MARTINA NAVRATILOVA, tennis star Seahawks, 24-17. Because they have a better running game, because they will be so excited being there for the first time and because the Steelers will feel a lot of pressure wanting to win it for Bettis.

MARTINA MCBRIDE, country star Pittsburgh, 31-10

PLACIDO DOMINGO, opera star Pittsburgh, 31-21

SHAQUILLE O'NEAL, NBA star Pittsburgh, 31-17, because it's Jerome Bettis' time!

KOBE BRYANT, NBA star I'm such an Eagles man. Unfortunately, my Eagles aren't in it. No, you know what? Pittsburgh is in Pennsylvania.

LEBRON JAMES, NBA star Pittsburgh by 17, because they are the best road team in the NFL right now.

MARIO LEMIEUX, Former NHL star, Pittsburgh Penguins Pittsburgh. It's the hometown team and I've become a fan.

BILL O'REILLY, TV host, Fox News Channel Pittsburgh, 24-17

KEITH OLBERMANN, TV host, MSNBC Pittsburgh. Ben Roethlisberger keeps getting better and better. Plus, it's essential I pretend Seattle QB Matt Hasselbeck is still 7 years old, because otherwise the feature I did on his father -- the football player/artist -- for CNN actually aired 24 years ago, and I can't face that.

WOLF BLITZER, TV host, CNN Pittsburgh, 21-17. I like Pittsburgh. It reminds me of my roots; I am originally from Buffalo, N.Y.

DENNIS FARINA, actor, "Law and Order,'' 2005 Scripps Howard Super Sage Award winner Pittsburgh, 31-17. Their defense is a little better than everybody else's.

BOB WEIR, Grateful Dead guitarist, 2004 Scripps Howard Super Sage Award winner I'm reluctantly picking Pittsburgh because brutal, blue collar football almost always trumps high-end, sophisticated football. The 49ers were the great exception. I do think it'll be a pretty defensive game. 24-21

ARNOLD PALMER, golfing legend, 2003 Scripps Howard Super Sage Award winner Pittsburgh, 35-20. The Steelers have more depth, a great quarterback and the Bus

HALEY JOEL OSMENT, actor who has picked the last six Super Bowl winners Pittsburgh, 31-21

MICKEY ROONEY, actor Pittsburgh, 34-7. Great coach, great running backs and fullbacks

ED ASNER, actor Seattle, 24-21. I think they're coming in to their own, I think they're hungry. They've been waiting for a long time -- longer than Pittsburgh. They're on the West Coast and so am I, and I play favorites.

PHYLLIS DILLER, comedienne Pittsburgh is going to win by 8. I'm sure of myself. They're hot and I got a hunch.

KENDRA WILKINSON, Hugh Hefner's girlfriend, "The Girls Next Door'' Pittsburgh, 27-14. They have more to play for. They're going to play extra strong just for Jerome.

MAMIE VAN DOREN, legendary sex symbol My fearless forecast is Pittsburgh, 42-17, because they are blue-collar bad $$es.

SHIRLEY JONES, actress Pittsburgh, no question! It's my hometown. Steelers by 7.

FLORENCE HENDERSON, Carol Brady, "The Brady Bunch'' Pittsburgh. We were in Pittsburgh recently (for Polident). We went by the stadium a number of times. We thought that Pittsburgh was terrific.

BARRY WILLIAMS, Greg Brady, "The Brady Bunch'' Steelers, 42-38. They are used to the cold.

RUSSELL JOHNSON, The Professor, "Gilligan's Island'' Seahawks, without a doubt, by 6 points.

DAWN WELLS, Mary Ann, "Gilligan's Island'' Seattle, 24-21. I'm a University of Washington grad. I've got to go with them.

MISS AMERICA JENNIFER BERRY Seattle, 24-17

MISS USA CHELSEA COOLEY Pittsburgh, 23-20. I can't root for the team that knocked my guys (Carolina) out of the Super Bowl!

CHUCK YEAGER, first pilot to break the sound barrier Much as I hate to see them do it, I think Pittsburgh will win, 17-10.

GENE CERNAN, last man to walk on the moon Seattle, 31-24


REGIS PHILBIN, talk show host Seattle surprised me against Carolina. Their defense is better than I thought and so is Hasselbeck, but I think Pittsburgh is destined to win the Super Bowl. They are really in sync as they come out of the playoff games and should reach their peak Sunday. Besides, I love Jerome Bettis and Bill Cowher and the team, and the city of Pittsburgh. I hope they have something to cheer about on Sunday night. They deserve it!

BOB COUSY, Hall of Fame basketball star Pittsburgh has raised it to the next level. Seattle isn't tournament-tested as they say. 17-10.

BOBBY THOMSON, former N.Y. Giants baseball player who in 1951 hit "Shot Heard 'Round the World'' Pittsburgh, 24-17.

RALPH BRANCA, former Dodger who threw the famous pitch to Thomson Seattle, 24-20.

EDDIE MURRAY, Hall of Fame baseball star Pittsburgh, 24-21. They've been playing in so many tight games for the past two months, they know what it takes to win. Also, Ben Roethlisberger looks comfortable out there.

MIKE ERUZIONE, captain of 1980 U.S. Olympic gold-medal winning hockey team Pittsburgh, 24-21. They're so physical.

PICABO STREET, Olympic gold medalist in skiing Pittsburgh, 20-13. My mom would kill me if I didn't pick the Steelers.

AL OERTER, four-time Olympic gold medalist in discus Seattle, 17-10. They're due.

MIKE POWELL, world record holder, long jump Pittsburgh, 17-7. Offensively they know that the defense is their strength. So it takes the pressure off of the offense. So as long as they score 17+ points, then they know the defense will cover their back.

GARY STEVENS, Hall of Fame jockey Seattle, 31-17. I think they are the better team of the two. I have been a fan since I rode in Seattle in the 1980's.

KRISTINE LILLY, world-record holder for most international soccer games Pittsburgh, 24-17. I am pulling for the AFC team and to be honest, I don't really know any of the players on the Seahawks.

JERMAIN TAYLOR, boxer, World Middleweight Champ Pittsburgh, 24-17. I fought twice in Pittsburgh while coming up through the ranks and "the Bus's'' last stop is going to be a good one. Big Ben's impressive passing will continue.

SIDNEY CROSBY, NHL star, Pittsburgh Penguins Pittsburgh.

MARK CUBAN, owner, Dallas Mavericks/HDNet Pittsburgh, 28-17. When you have running, passing and the best defensive back in the history of the NFL, you are going to be tough to beat.

DICK VITALE, ABC/ESPN college basketball announcer Pittsburgh, 27-21. I'm a big fan of Notre Dame and I've always loved Jerome Bettis. Jerome gets to go home to Detroit. Bettis to lead the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

RYAN NEWMAN, NASCAR driver Seattle, 28-14. Seattle simply has the better team. There's a reason why Pittsburgh was the sixth seed.

[Angry Pope]

MATT KENSETH, NASCAR driver Pittsburgh always gets a lot of hype for running the football, but if you've watched these two teams play lately, Seattle runs the ball a lot more effectively. Seattle, 20-17.

ALAN WEBB, America's fastest miler Pittsburgh, 28-24.

NATALIE COUGHLIN, Olympic gold medalist swimmer Steelers, 24-21. No team has ever made it to the Super Bowl from last seed with every playoff game on the road. Very impressive! I'm cheering for the Steelers because I want Jerome Bettis, who apparently is a great teammate and hard worker, to end his career on a high note.

NATE HOLLAND, 2006 Olympian, snowboardcross Seattle, all the way baby! I was born and raised in the Northwest. I hope they crush Pittsburgh's Super Bowl dreams. 24-20.

SCOTT ADAMS, Dilbert cartoonist Seattle, 35-24. The Seahawks, because their home field is closest to my home. If I've learned anything from sports fans it's that the team that's the nearest is the best one.

TY PENNINGTON, host, "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition'' Pittsburgh, 30-24. Because, like my show when the "Bus'' (Jerome Bettis) moves, big things happen. Move that bus.

RANDY JACKSON, judge, "American Idol'' Steelers by 3. It is their destiny.

STEVE CARELL, actor, "The Office,'' "40-Year-Old Virgin'' I guess that I'm taking Pittsburgh because I'm on a show that is based in Scranton, and to accommodate and to appease our viewers and lovers from the greater Scranton area, I think that it behooves me to pick Pittsburgh.

CHRIS KLEIN, movie actor Pittsburgh, 34-24. I would love to see Jerome Bettis win the Super Bowl in what may be his last season.

MARK MOSES, actor, "Desperate Housewives'' Seahawks, 31-28. Because my father-in-law wants to go to the Super Bowl, which he can't do because he can't really get around too well, and knowing I'll be there watching the whole thing combined with the Seahawks winning ... well, let's just say it will kill him and I'll have the last laugh.

JESSE L. MARTIN, actor, "Law and Order'' Pittsburgh, 21-20, because of the defense.

TONY SIRICO, actor, "The Sopranos'' Seattle, 24-21, because of their defensive backs.

WILLIAM SANDERSON, actor, "Deadwood'' Pittsburgh, 31-17. I love Jerome Bettis who reminds me of an 18-wheel truck looking for someone to hit.

MOLLY SIMS, actress, "Las Vegas'' Even though I'd like to see Seattle win because they've never even been to the Super Bowl before, I think Pittsburgh will ride the bus back home with the Lombardi trophy! 20-17.

JAMES LESURE, actor, "Las Vegas'' It's the Steelers all the way baby! I'm going with them because of that strong defense... It won't be a shut out, but I'd have to say the Steelers by two.

JUSTIN BERFIELD, actor, "Malcolm in the Middle'' Seattle, 35-21. I am always the guy who goes for the underdog and they are REALLY long overdue.

KEVIN SORBO, actor: Pittsburgh, 31-21 I want the Seahawks, but my gut says Steelers. They have the hottest team right now. Their offense is diversified and unpredictable, and their defense is just too tough.

ISAIAH WASHINGTON, actor, "Grey's Anatomy'' Pittsburgh, 27-17. I'm rooting for Jerome Bettis -- it's his last season!

ANTHONY LAPAGLIA, actor, "Without a Trace'' I remember the Iron Curtain years back, and so I'm kind of pulling for Pittsburgh.

LAURA INNES, actress, "E.R.'' I have to go for Seattle.

MIRANDA LAMBERT, country music star Go to Vegas and place your bets because Seattle will win! Because Seattle has the best passing game and running game in the league. And because Pittsburgh can't stop Shaun Alexander! 24-17.

VINCE NEIL, Motley Crue lead singer Pittsburgh, 21-7. Toughest team, better defense.

JOAN JETT, rock star Pittsburgh, 31-14. Because I was born in Pennsylvania. I lived in Pittsburgh until I was six. Go Steelers!

TOM SCHOLZ, rock star, Boston If the Patriots aren't playing, can they really call it a "Super Bowl?'' Anyway, I'd guess 24-7, Steelers. Seattle must be thoroughly depressed after two months of non-stop rain.

LANCE BASS, singer, NSYNC Seattle, 27-23. I like that they're the underdogs.

ROB VAN WINKLE, aka VANILLA ICE I am picking Seattle , even though Pittsburgh will be tough. I think this one will be a exciting game going all the way to the end -- maybe overtime -- not some lame blow out. I just wish my Miami Dolphins were there. Maybe next year. Go Fins and always remember the '72 Dolphins.

SUSAN ANTON, entertainer I love the "Bus'' and would love to see him get his Super Bowl ring before he retires. The Steelers have been on fire these past few weeks, but in the end I have a feeling that the Seahawks are going to be triumphant in their first ever Bowl appearance. Seattle, 31-28.

SCOTT TUROW, author Pittsburgh, 19-17. I guess I think they're a little sounder defensively.

CHRISTOPHER KENNEDY LAWFORD, author Pittsburgh, 27-24. I have been an AFC fan ever since the Patriots were the Boston Patriots. Loved the Pittsburgh Steel Curtain in the '70's.

SEN. MARIA CANTWELL, D-Wash. The Seahawks have had an amazing season and fans have lived up to our legendary 12th man status. The Steelers are a formidable foe, but I'm putting my money on the Hawks.

SEN. ARLEN SPECTER, R-Pa. I agreed with (Terry) Bradshaw following the Steelers rout of the Denver Broncos when he said he didn't care whether it was the Seahawks or Carolina, the Steelers were going to whoop them.

NEWT GINGRICH, former Speaker of the House Pittsburgh, 34-24. I was born in Harrisburg, Pa. and rooted for the Steel Curtain when they were dominant.

REP. JOHN MURTHA, D-Pa. Pittsburgh, 21-7. Why? Strength of the defense.

REP. TOM TANCREDO, R-Colo. Steelers, 27-16. If they beat the Broncos, they'll crush the Seahawks.

DR. JAMES DOBSON, Focus on the Family Pittsburgh, 33-21. Why? Demonstrated superior ability to run and pass -- and the moxie to win.

DR. JERRY FALWELL, Moral Majority Coalition Seattle. You can put your money on it.

TAMMY FAYE BAKKER MESSNER Pittsburgh, 28-21. Best coach.

GEORGE WALLACE, comedian Pittsburgh, 28-21. Because the hype is up for them because of Jerome Bettis. They're hot. But Shawn Alexander is going to put on a great show for Seattle.

LEROY NEIMAN, artist Pittsburgh is on a roll but Seattle is putting together a dynasty. Seahawks, 34-21.

ROSHUMBA WILLIAMS, model/TV personality I'd have to go with Pittsburgh, 35-21. I was born in Pennsylvania and have to take it home.

CAT CORA, chef, Food Network Pittsburgh, 28-21. I have a lot of loyalty and family pressure to root for Pittsburgh and I think Pittsburgh really wants to win it. It's been 26 years!

BOBBY FLAY, chef, Food Network Pittsburgh, 20-17. The Steelers are more playoff seasoned. They have a lot of experience in big games.

KEVIN BRAUCH, TV host, Fine Living's "The Thirsty Traveler'' Pittsburgh, 37-17. Look at the history: five appearances, four victories, Three Rivers Stadium, the Immaculate Reception, the working-class ethic of this team ... I grew up with this team in the '70s and now it's all about THE BUS!

PENN JILLETTE, Penn & Teller Pittsburgh, 21-17. My wife's family is from there and this is a cheap, painless way to get in good with them. My wife is all excited about her "ORIGINAL'' terrible towel.

CARROT TOP, comedian Pittsburgh, 31-24. I would love to see "The Bus'' win. And I would love to see the coach smile .. that alone is worth it. If they win they could put their logo on the other side of their helmet.

JUDY TENUTA, comedienne The Steelers have the advantage, but the Seahawks have never won so I'm going to go for them. Besides, they have cuter butts. 24-21.

TED GIANNOULAS aka SAN DIEGO CHICKEN Sorry Seattle, a chicken cannot favor a hawk of any stripe. Besides, has anyone noted the Steelers have lost only 3 road games in the last two years? Even a bird-brain can do the math on this -- Pittsburgh wins, 29-20.

[CrossBones]

I'm going with Susan Anton! :D

[Angry Pope]

Here is a story on Mario Williams....

Life seems all laid out for Williams

February 07,2006

MIKE BOAZ
DAILY NEWS STAFF

Sometimes Mario Williams almost feels like he’s watching a made-for-TV movie about his life.

Everything seems to be scripted for success. From humble beginnings to unlimited potential; from smalltown boy to big-time pro athlete. Like it was just meant to be.

“Everything is just going so well right now. It’s like my life is just laid out before me. Everything is just clicking into place,” said Williams last week from Phoenix, Ariz., where the former Richlands High All-State star is preparing for the upcoming NFL Combine at the world-renowned Athletes Performance training facility.

“My chance of succeeding, of having a great pro career, of doing what I always dreamed of doing is right there. Sometimes I can just see it. I feel so blessed to be in this position. I just have to stop and thank God for all this.”

In Mario’s case, the path to this point of his life started, literally, from birth. Or, actually, before it when the genes inherited from his mother, Mary, and father, Don, would eventually build a body perfectly designed for the NFL.

Perfect model

Chuck Amato, his former college coach at N.C. State, explained it like this earlier this year:

“If you wanted to just sit down over God’s shoulder and explain how you wanted a defensive end to be built, you’d just show him Mario. That’s the perfect model.”

He stands 6-foot, 7-inches and weighs 290 pounds. He has the body fat of a super model and the speed of a wide receiver. He spent so much time in the weight room at N.C. State that it should be named for him.

“Mario has this combination of size and speed that is just freaky,” said Amato. “I think he could stand another year in college for technique and maybe experience, but physically he is more than ready for the NFL.”

The decision to leave N.C. State a year early was not made easily.

“I talked to my family and anyone else I thought was helpful. But it was a decision I eventually had to make on my own for myself,” said Williams. “I thought that I’d had a pretty good season, especially in the second half. I thought I was in pretty good shape to make this move.

“I have lived in North Carolina all my life. I thought it was time for me to grow and to expand as a person. My decision was that I am ready and when I made it, I just knew it felt right. I am happy I took this opportunity.”

And what an opportunity it is. Look around the Internet and you will find about a dozen Web sites listing mock drafts. Mario is among the top five picks in almost all of them. Most of them have him going to the Green Bay Packers at No. 5 or the Oakland Raiders at No. 6. Two rate him as high as No. 3 to the Tennessee Titans. Mel Kiper, ESPN’s omnipresent NFL guru, has him listed as the fifth-best prospect in the draft and the first defensive player selected.

Big payday

It should mean a payday ranging from $16 to $20 million for him on April 29. A range all of us would gladly crawl into and set the heat on high.

Mario is letting his new agent, Ben Dogra, handle all that for him. He feels comfortable with Dogra and his SFX Sports Group, a talent management company based in St. Louis with clients ranging from Jerry Rice and Cadillac Williams in the NFL to Andre Agassi in tennis and Pedro Martinez in baseball.

Dogra, recognized as one of the best recruiters in sports management, was drawn to Mario Williams right away.

“He’s just this great kid with such a future,” said Dogra. “He’s got it all. Physical, mental, good citizen, durable. He’s what you want in a No. 1 draft choice.”

Williams was also drawn to Dogra.

“Of all the agents I talked with, he was the one I felt most comfortable with,” said Williams. “He was more interested in me. It was like being in a family with him. I just trusted him.

“The rest of them just came right at me, talking immediately about how much money they could get me and how tough they could be. I feel like I can get the money, but I wanted someone who thought about me as a person, too.”

Money, of course, is the elephant in the room. It’s too big to ignore, too life-changing not to be found in moments of thought.

“I am trying not to think about that because it seems pretty strange,” said Williams. “I am trying to think about getting ready for the combine; keep my mind on what I have to do to make all this happen. If I do that, the rest will just happen like it will happen.

“That doesn’t mean it (money) hasn’t crossed my mind. But I can’t let that be what drives me, what makes me work. That has to be from somewhere else.”

Of course, he’s already had a small taste of financial windfall.

After signing with SFX, he went on a little shopping trip. He bought new cars for his mother, now living in Raleigh, and his father.

“It was weird, even that worked out just perfectly,” said Williams. “Just before, my mother had gotten into an accident and wrecked her car. And my dad’s car couldn’t get out of the driveway the day before. So that was just right.”

Of course, he also got himself a new toy. A custom-made Hummer.

“I had to have a new ride,” he laughed. “It’s pretty nice.”

And just think, it’s just the beginning.

[Angry Pope]

Plunk's son...

Son Of Former Raider Faces Sex Assault Charges


ATHERTON, Calif. -- The son of football legend Jim Plunkett is facing sexual assault charges.

Twenty-two-year-old James Plunkett Junior was arrested Saturday two days after a woman claimed he had choked her and physically assaulted her.

Plunkett Junior was taken into custody by Atherton police on charges of assault with intent to commit rape and inflicting injury.

He is free on 50-thousand dollar bail. An arraignment is scheduled for March 13.

Police refused to release the woman's identity or relationship with the suspect because she is an alleged victim of sexual assault.

The younger Plunkett's lawyer says the two were dating and that his client plans to fight the charges.

The elder Plunkett was a star quarterback at Stanford University and later won a Super Bowl title with the Oakland Raiders.

[CrossBones]

Well this is a sad story about Jim Plunkett's son.

As if Jim hasn't had enough family disasters in his life -- now this! :(

[Angry Pope]

Tirico, Kornheiser, Theismann new crew on MNF


NEW YORK (Feb. 8, 2006) -- Do you believe in switching networks? Yes!

Al Michaels appears headed to NBC after ESPN hired former quarterback Joe Theismann, Washington Post columnist Tony Kornheiser and Mike Tirico as its Monday night broadcast crew

Michaels had been with ABC since 1976 and had been the play-by-play voice of Monday Night Football since 1986, when he replaced Frank Gifford. A four-time Emmy-Award winner, he is best known for exclaiming "Do you believe in miracles? Yes!" when the United States upset the favored Soviet Union in the 1980 Winter Olympic hockey tournament.

NBC takes over Sunday night games next season from ESPN. John Madden, Michaels' broadcast partner for the last four seasons, agreed in June to a six-year contract with NBC.

"Al was not comfortable and let us know he was not comfortable with our vision of where we are going," ESPN executive vice president John Skipper said after Wednesday's announcement. "Back in November he said it was the greatest job ever invented. So sometime between the last couple of weeks and November apparently he had a change of heart."

At a news conference July 26, Michaels said he would remain with Monday Night Football when it switched to ESPN after 36 seasons on ABC. He was to be paired with Theismann, who had broadcast Sunday night games on ESPN with Mike Patrick and Paul Maguire.

"I feel like I'm a creature of Monday night. I'm home and I'm staying home," Michaels said then. "The three words Monday Night Football resonate like no other."

Skipper was evasive when asked about specifics on Michaels, saying only a "satisfactory resolution" had been reached. Pat Gibbons, a marketing representative for Michaels, said he could not reach the broadcaster. NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol did not return a telephone message left with a spokesman.

Mike Breen will replace Michaels as the lead NBA play-by-play announcer on ABC/ESPN. He will be joined by former NBA coach Hubie Brown, hired in December 2004 as the analyst.

ESPN plans to use its various television and radio networks and Web sites for daylong buildups to the Monday night games, which will start at 8:40 p.m., about 25 earlier than previously. MNF has not had a three-man booth since Michaels was teamed with Dan Fouts and Dennis Miller in 2000-01.

Theismann was an NFL quarterback for 12 seasons and had worked on ESPN's Sunday night games since 1988. Kornheiser, who had auditioned for the MNF job Miller got, has written for the Post since 1979 and has co-hosted Pardon the Interruption on ESPN since September 2001 with Michael Wilbon, another Post writer.

"I've got about 27 gigs right now," Kornheiser said. "I've got radio, I've got television, I've got The Washington Post."

He thinks listeners do care about who broadcasts games, especially "if the telecast has a certain amount of sizzle."

"Roone Arledge and Howard Cosell, among others, sort of changed the viewing habits of America," he said.

He also must adjust his schedule.

"I live like a barn animal. I go to sleep at 9:30 and wake up at about 5," he said.

Tirico has been a SportsCenter host for ESPN and handled play-by-play of the last Orange Bowl. He has worked for ESPN and ABC since 1991.

"It's the best play-by-play chair in sports," Tirico said. "To be the next person to sit in it is humbling."

Michele Tafoya returns for her third season as a Monday Night Football sideline reporter, and Suzy Kolber was added as a second sideline reporter.

[Angry Pope]

Here is the schedule for the Pro Days...

2006 NFL Pro Days and Junior Days

The workouts just begin with the NFL Combine in February. For the entire month of March, and into April, NFL scouts and coaches will be visiting the schools to put the players through workouts on their own turf. The NFL Draft Prospects will be thoroughly worked out from stretching, weightlifting, and timed in various football drills. Those eligible for the 2007 NFL draft will also allowed to workout in most schools, however, some schools have individual dates set aside for these player as well. The schedule is listed below. All dates are subject to change.


March 1

Central Florida I

March 2

Boise State, Bowling Green, Florida Atlantic, Missouri, Northwestern, Northwestern State (La.), Toledo

March 3

North Dakota, South Dakota State, Yale

March 4

Miami (Fla.)

March 6

Army, Minnesota, Utah

March 7

Nebraska-Omaha, Troy I, Utah State I, UTEP, Western Michigan

March 8

BYU, Florida, Kentucky, Nebraska, Northern Illinois, Notre Dame I, Oklahoma

March 9

Clemson, Fordham, Iowa State, Louisiana-Monroe, Oregon I, Texas Tech,

March 10

Alabama, Arizona State I, Kent State, Purdue I, South Florida, Washington

March 13

Alabama State, Cal-Davis

March 14

Pittsburg State (Kan.), San Diego State, Shippensburg, Troy II, Wake Forest

March 15

Alabama A&M, Arkansas, Bethune-Cookman, Illinois, Nevada-Reno, Northwood (Mich.), Oregon State, Saginaw Valley State (Mich.), South Carolina, Temple, Western Carolina

March 16

Appalachian State, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Massachusetts, Oregon II, Penn State, Princeton

March 17

Maryland, Vanderbilt, Villanova

March 18

Michigan State

March 20

Southern Mississippi

March 21

New Mexico, North Carolina

March 22

North Carolina State, Rutgers, Southern Illinois, Texas

March 23

Auburn, Connecticut, Duke, Georgia, Notre Dame II, Texas State

March 24

Louisiana Tech I

March 27

Houston

March 28

Utah State II

March 29

Arizona State II, Central Florida II, New Mexico State

March 30

Carson-Newman

March 31

Louisiana Tech II, Purdue II

April 2

Southern California (Weight-lifting portion will be at Heritage Hall; 40-yard dash and on-field testing will take place at Cromwell Track & Field, which is adjacent to Heritage Hall. Junior Day also will be held this day.)




Junior Days

These workouts are only for players who will be draft eligible in 2007

Alabama A&M -- April 5
Arkansas -- May 2
Boise State -- May 3
BYU -- June 16
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[Angry Pope]

Here is another determined young man...

Anderson On the Rise

February 8, 2006

By Lauren Tweet

"I am going to make an impact on this team," said Raiders tight end Courtney Anderson. In the past two seasons with The Oakland Raiders, Anderson's determination to make an impact has been very promising. In 2004, the Raiders selected Anderson in the seventh round of the NFL Draft. Anderson's 6'6'', 270-pound frame has become a great asset to the Raiders organization. Not only is he bringing strength and power to the Raiders offense, but showing up on the stat sheet as well.

Although Anderson was born in Greenville, Texas, at a young age his family relocated to Richmond, California. He started playing football at five years old. It wasn't until his freshman year of high school did he participate in organized football. "I loved watching football growing up. I realized I wanted to become the next Jerry Rice," stated Anderson. While attending Richmond High, Anderson made a name for himself. In 1998, he caught 50 passes for 1,005 yards and 12 touchdowns. His performance earned him All-State honors.

Anderson continued his success while attending San Jose State University. While at SJSU, Anderson appeared in 23 games with 36 receptions for 477 yards and seven touchdowns. Although he was successful in college, Anderson suggested college could not fully prepare him to play professionally. "Even when playing the best teams and the best players in college, nothing can prepare you for professional competition," Anderson explained. "Players are so much stronger and faster."

Looking at Anderson's statistics, it seems as though he hasn't had such a hard time transitioning from playing college football to playing professionally in the NFL. Over the past two seasons, Anderson has hauled in 37 receptions for 478 yards and four touchdowns. Although Anderson wants to make a name for himself in the NFL, it's also a priority to contribute to improving the team as a whole. "I don't want to be a selfish player. I want to make my team look good," stated Anderson.

Last season, Anderson has not only kept his promise to help improve the team, but has also improved his own talents as well. In 2005, he grabbed 24 receptions for 303 yards and three touchdowns. "The first year I was here I was just happy to be a part of this program. This season I had more confidence and I felt like I got a lot more accomplished," said Anderson.

"I feel like next season I will have an important role in the offense," added Anderson, "whether it is my passing game or blocking." Anderson is looking forward to next season with great anticipation. "During the off-season I will be doing everything I can to improve my game - from weightlifting to conditioning to watching videos, I will be ready to go next season," said Anderson.

"I am going to step up my game," said Anderson. "I am willing to do whatever it takes." Keep an eye out for Courtney Anderson and the great things he is bound to accomplish.

[Angry Pope]

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